I can feel your pain in this

Oct 04, 2021,19:05 PM
 

I hope it gets rectified. 


As in automobiles, the more complex the engines are, the more problems can arise. It is a beautiful piece to behold.

If it were me, I will shake off the feelings of disappointment and get it repaired. It has sentimental value. It is a very intellectual piece.

This hobby comes with a hidden price-tag. As with exotic cars, unique design challenges can happen. 

All watches come with inherent design glitches. Some less so than others, like those tried and true workhorse calibres. 


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Damn... My first problem with a JLC...

 
 By: Alfihar : October 4th, 2021-16:40
As Amanico had announced it... I crossed the milestone of 1 / 20th of a millennium this Sunday ... And I thought for a long time to know what would be the watch that I would offer to myself for this event. The range of possibilities was enormous ... Vinta...  

it'll get rectified.

 
 By: sludgeriff : October 4th, 2021-17:03
My understanding is that all Duometres have to back to Le Sentier to be serviced. Mechanical watches are temperamental little bastards. There are a million things that can go wrong. After it comes back from JLC it will look and perform perfectly.

I agree… but I’ve never had such a problem with a watch…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-05:51
Maybe It could be solve by replacing the screw on Thursday or… I have to send it for a service… Best Ø

I completely understand how you feel about the situation. You wait so long and work so hard for something that is so important to you only to be disappointed. In the end

 
 By: aperna : October 4th, 2021-17:21
We all must remember that you have good health, a beautiful family and certainly the ability to Acquire such a beautiful time piece is what is important I am starting to become a little bit more patient with minor disappointments in my life even though I ... 

Beautiful words doc

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 4th, 2021-20:30
Thank you 🙏🏼 Regards Gatsby

Very true

 
 By: Gelato Monster : October 4th, 2021-23:54
You will get it back at an even better condition

hopefully max 3 mos

 
 By: Gelato Monster : October 5th, 2021-06:12

Yes… maybe early 2022…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-06:40
Best Ø

Hi aperna

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-05:57
I've always been aware that the main thing is somewhere other than a watch problem ... it's just annoying ... and it happened the day after a great moment so I actually put it into perspective. The fact remains that it is frustrating and I cannot explain ... 

That’s true… maybe JLC may solve this problem… or not…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-06:01
I will be extremely disappointed if that is not the case ... I think that might lead me to turn my back on this brand that I love. And when I turn my back, I never look back. La biz mon poto

Congratulations on a story extremely well-told

 
 By: blau : October 4th, 2021-17:26
Condolences, though, on the contents of the story! One question, though: do my eyes deceive me, or is the screw not fully seated in the original pictures? If it wasn't, that might explain how it came the rest of the way out when you wound it--you made the... 

I rewind the watch only twice till July…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-06:18
Indeed either the screw was unscrewed and this was not seen during the inspection in July, or the screw broke. I do not see any other possibility ... and I think the first hypothesis is the most likely, unless it is a question of a brittleness of the stee... 

Back

 
 By: Weems@8 : October 4th, 2021-17:32
I would wear that JLC wrong. Great movement to see.

Ahaha that’s true…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-06:19
Best Ø

Could it be an inherent design flaw

 
 By: Cookies : October 4th, 2021-18:51
If the threadings in the screw are in the same direction as the barrel uncoupling movement, it will eventually loosen. Not sure if i can illustrate this well. One barrel turns clockwise, and the other barrel turns anti-clockwise. Therefore, the uncoupling... 

Don’t know the screw direction. If it is the same as the barrel there is a risk and possibly a problem of conception…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-06:22
But as I’ve explained it… I only rewind it twice since July. Best Ø

I can feel your pain in this

 
 By: Cookies : October 4th, 2021-19:05
I hope it gets rectified. As in automobiles, the more complex the engines are, the more problems can arise. It is a beautiful piece to behold. If it were me, I will shake off the feelings of disappointment and get it repaired. It has sentimental value. It... 

That’s right

 
 By: Cookies : October 5th, 2021-13:09
Complicated but beautiful women

For sure they are…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-13:35
marvelous, complicated as a perpetual calendar, sometimes sound like a minute repeater to remind you things, sometimes, poetic times like a lunar calendar, sometimes always late like the hand of a split-seconds… a all in one grande complication…

Brother don’t ask JLC about the screws

 
 By: Cookies : October 5th, 2021-13:50
Their reps are quite snobby at times, I had a big quarrel with a brand manager in Singapore because they sent me my Geophysic user manual with a torn page. And the torn page coincidentally was in my native language. I suspected foul play. My previous navy... 

What you describe is (unfortunately) sad.

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-14:40
As far as I'm concerned the contact went well and was both understanding and caring. I am waiting for Thursday to go to the Paris store to see if the acts are consistent with the speeches. For the moment I cannot plead except for the inconvenience of havi... 

I really hope your JLC problems will be solved quickly! For the rest...

 
 By: eklektik : October 4th, 2021-20:13
... bon anniversaire! Très belle sélection de cadeaux, parfaitement dans mes goûts Les petites touches personnelles sont sans prix, le reste est de la belle mécanique réparable! Best, E.

Oui, en plus j’en ai profité pleinement puisque le souci n’est arrivé que le lendemain…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-06:27
Au moins cette montre aura une histoire… espérons juste qu’elle ne dure pas un siècle sous l’angle des problèmes… je pense néanmoins qu’il y en a pour 3/6 mois d’attente avant que tout rentre dans l’ordre. Amitiés Ø

Dear Alfihar, happy belated 50th again.

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 4th, 2021-20:28
I had to calculate what 1/20 of a millennium is… Regarding your situation, I would like to share my perspective with you. I have had my fair share of heartaches with watches. In no particular order, I have had problems with De Bethune, Journe, JLC and als... 

Hi Gatsby…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-06:32
I agree with you… there is much more important things than watches… good health, family and friends… Have a nice day Best Ø

What a great story aside from the unfortunate ending and congrats on the new duometre. I'm sure it will get resolved but this shouldn't happen.

 
 By: Fastwong : October 4th, 2021-21:12
I too sent my Duometre to JLC for service since I wanted to make sure it was well maintained even though it was working fine and also received back a watch that failed almost immediately. JLC eventually sorted it out after multiple services and I ended up... 

Thanks

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-06:34
I have been patience to put it on my wrist and have to be again 😬 Love affairs need patience Best Ø

Thanks my friend

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-06:45
I have the same question as you ... either the screw was loose and it was not noticed during the check ... or it broke due to a fragility of the steel ... I do not see another explanations because I have only rewind it twice since July (Sunday tbefore put... 

Thanks… hope so

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-06:45
Best Ø

I feel your frustration. Although my JLC caliber-IWC is nothing compared to the duometre..

 
 By: hoseachandra : October 5th, 2021-03:18
The six month wait is torturing, and even then it had to go back again for 2 weeks for a small problem. But it is in perfect condition when i received it back the love for it get stronger. I am sure you will feel that too when you get yours. Time flies, y... 

So true… time flies

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-06:48
And my Duometre may fly to le Sentier… and come back in good condition… maybe after 3 months Best Ø

I thought it was a showcase

 
 By: Weems@8 : October 5th, 2021-08:24
Knocking on wood, i have no movement troubles with all my watches. My Omega have a strange crown feel, so i put it always on a winder to avoid unscrewing. I am afraid to buy another watch with a screw in crown. I never over wound a watch, i always think w... 

It's my first problem with a watch… except one with a plexi dome…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 5th, 2021-08:29
Will see soon if I have to wait and how long. Best Ø

Oh my... 🤦🏾‍♂️

 
 By: Watcholic_id : October 5th, 2021-12:29
So sorry to hear about this. Wishing your Duometre a speedy recovery 🙏🏾🙏🏾

Update…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 7th, 2021-17:22
the screw is broken… Metal particles have fallen into the watch and the mechanism is most likely damaged…. it is not good to get old ... Best Ø

Update on update

 
 By: Alfihar : October 8th, 2021-15:34
Thanks to Jaeger Lecoultre Paris Vendôme Boutique, the watch is on the way to it’s birth’s place. I would like to thank the staff of the store for their kindness, their kindness and their professionalism ... For now everything is going as it should, well ...  

Who knows 😂😂😂

 
 By: Alfihar : October 8th, 2021-21:04

Hehehe... ;)

 
 By: amanico : October 8th, 2021-21:04

Love and Hate…

 
 By: Alfihar : October 31st, 2021-06:38
Hi everyone, On Thursday, after three weeks, I received a call from the watchmaker of the Jaeger LeCoultre boutique in Paris for my Duomètre Quantième Linaire. He explained to me that the regulator barrel screw was indeed broken and that it was necessary ...  

I totally understand your passionate reaction. You are a passionate fan, you react as a passionate fan, in the good and in the bad moments; And here, the story of the screw is not attributable to you or time passing, but to...

 
 By: amanico : October 31st, 2021-07:09
A problem when the movement was assembled. As this watch was almost unworn since then, the screw should not have broken. So, JLC should have taken the problem for free. Not happy for you, indeed. Not good for JLC, either. Best, mon ami. Nicolas

For me life without passion seems very sad…. not to mention that I can't do without ;-)

 
 By: Alfihar : November 1st, 2021-06:35
The passion is exhilarating, transporting with sometimes an excessive side which can play tricks… but at least one feels fully alive!

My heart goes to you.

 
 By: Rhyzen : October 31st, 2021-11:14
The reply from JLC is devoid of empathy, and it is a great shame given your obvious passion for the brand. I'm afraid they have lost not just a long-time supporter, but also deterred many others from venturing into this brand. Disappointing.

Indeed my friend.

 
 By: Rhyzen : October 31st, 2021-11:24
I had a JLC ultra thin moonphase in beautiful rose gold, and although it was a joy to wear, I let it go for another acquisition. Was seriously considering the new Polaris (due to your excellent review my friend), but am seriously having second thoughts no... 

I totally agree : It’s always a matter of confidence… with family, friends, colleagues…

 
 By: Alfihar : November 1st, 2021-05:01
Nothing is possible without… Lack of confidence lead to suspicions, fear…

What an ordeal, what a story, with lots of passion but also lots of frustration !

 
 By: hs111 : October 31st, 2021-12:15
Just wanted to nevertheless express sincere congrats to your choice and having what you have dreamed about. Only thing is, I hope, no I still trust, your watch should and will come back in glory; maybe before you finally turn your back at LGM ! Thus take ... 

Yes, love and family are more important… At least it's reliable ;-)

 
 By: Alfihar : November 1st, 2021-05:11
and yes "La Grande Maison" remains a fabulous dream factory… even if some of its representatives are unworthy of it…. it's always a question of people and excellence ... or mediocrity. I will see how JLC reacts ... But if they persist in the course taken,... 

Not good. In the modern Richemont / Luxury Group era, I think we need to separate the watches from the brands and the past from the present (sadly)

 
 By: Fastwong : October 31st, 2021-17:56
I'm sorry to hear this, I share your sentiments completely. As mentioned earlier, I had some terrible issues with JLC with my Duometre, one of the many issues coincidentally enough was also barrel spring that snapped and unwound instantly as well. After m... 

The manufacture is run by a magnificent woman who had no extensive knowledge of watchmaking ...

 
 By: Alfihar : November 1st, 2021-06:31
this should therefore give beautiful babies ... ;-) the gestation time is just longer ... the time that she perfectly masters her subject ... but I found someone very attentive at the Reverso party, so I trust ... However, I wait to see if the ramage is u... 

I (still) sincerely hope that the future will surprise you, even if in a way I agree with you.

 
 By: Alfihar : November 1st, 2021-05:46
Of course, JLC is not currently in an innovation phase (Except maybe in extraordinary pieces like the Reverso quadriptych for example). I also prefer - and this is personal - the period of the Amvox 2, of the Extreme Lab 2, of the creation of the Duometer... 

Update !

 
 By: Alfihar : November 15th, 2021-16:58
OMG... Recall of JLC Vendôme ... finally I have the confirmation that no intervention can be done without service ... (I'm waiting for the confirmation email... The words fly away and I have to admit that I'm not really confident anymore.) It seems that i...  

I fear his gloves.

 
 By: amanico : November 15th, 2021-20:38

Gloves ? 😬

 
 By: Alfihar : November 16th, 2021-10:36

:)

 
 By: amanico : November 16th, 2021-10:54

Really sorry to read that!

 
 By: eklektik : November 16th, 2021-12:40
What a pity: no watch should not have this type of problems and the brand taking no accountability is a real disappointment... I fully understand your position and the only way out is JLC to service it at their own costs, which does not seem to be on the ... 

Thanks for your kind message…

 
 By: Alfihar : November 16th, 2021-13:04
I’m waiting you photo ! Best Ø

LOL, good one, my friend.

 
 By: amanico : November 16th, 2021-16:17

Trust, once lost, is extremely difficult to recover.

 
 By: Rhyzen : November 16th, 2021-15:04
In this case, it seems like they are not even trying. Very disappointing to say the least, but my full respect to you for sticking to your principles.

Sorry about your ordeal, unfortunately you are not alone

 
 By: donizetti : November 16th, 2021-13:45
I recently asked for a replacement dial on my Duometre because of a discoloration. They insisted on only doing it in the context of a full service (which it did not need as it was fully functional). So grudgingly I did send it in, waited for three months ...  

A real pity, and a shame.

 
 By: amanico : November 16th, 2021-16:22

It’s a shame !

 
 By: Alfihar : November 16th, 2021-14:12
Jaeger LeCoultre makes very beautiful pieces ... Unfortunately the service does not match the excellence of their creation… And unfortunately we are more than two to have had a problem with a Duomètre… and JLC service…

very sorry to hear your experience .. I hope it has been

 
 By: christianch : January 1st, 2022-11:01
solved by now. I stumbled upon this article by searching "duometre review". Not. a good sign for such a brand Personally I also have issue with two JLC Master Perpetual ultra thin (me and my brother both one each, just few months differences between the p... 

Dear Christianch,

 
 By: Alfihar : January 2nd, 2022-11:41
Unfortunately, the problem remains unresolved to this day. It's kind of my fault because JLC contacted me to meet me, but I've declined because of lack of time and also of desire. I honestly did not see what I could add to what I had already written in th... 

thank you for the comprehensive reply! Just my humble view...

 
 By: christianch : January 9th, 2022-01:01
First of all I am somehow confident that JLC will find a solution for you issue and I honestly hope that you watch is now ready and you will enjoy it regardless of the "bad" start. To clarify my issues with the 2 JLC perpetual calendars: both myself and m... 

There's a fun interview with Max Busser where he mentions they used to call the perpetuals at JLC boomerang watches because they knew those would be coming back soon for service

 
 By: Fastwong : January 2nd, 2022-20:11
This has nothing to do with new or used so much as that the knew between the delicacy and complication of the movement and the high incidence of user error that they would be coming back to after sales service at a high rate. He does say this isn't necess... 

I also agree with you.

 
 By: Alfihar : January 3rd, 2022-05:26
JLC has a quite affordable service and failure rate isn’t specific to JLC. Best Ø

probably the perpetual module of JLC has some issues ..

 
 By: christianch : January 9th, 2022-01:04
many in the forums reported it too and other for IWC. This is really not ideal. But I wouldn't trust entirely a competitor, are Max Busser watches not coming back for service as often ? 😏

Just on the Max Büsser's comment: it was not specific to JLC, but to any Perpetual Calendar...

 
 By: eklektik : January 10th, 2022-14:46
... And he makes his comment while selling his new mechanism www.watchcollectinglifestyle.com Best, E.

very nice watch and movement concept but ..

 
 By: christianch : January 15th, 2022-21:41
at x7 the price a different fish, I don't want to think about how much would it cost to service? probably the price of the JLC

It has broken…

 
 By: Alfihar : January 8th, 2022-04:48
Best Ø

SMS received ...

 
 By: Alfihar : January 8th, 2022-04:54
No « dear sir », nor the slightest form of politeness ... I must be getting old ... because I find the form of the sms in a property, not to mention that it comes from a house that claims to belong to the world of luxury and that it is a question of a sli...  

Keep us updated dear O!

 
 By: eklektik : January 10th, 2022-14:56
Hopefully all this will be behind you soon and you will look again at this watch as a great present for your 50th birthday! Take care, Best, E.

Hi

 
 By: Alfihar : January 16th, 2022-17:47
I hope everything is going as you wish dear Etienne. Duo is back... but the magic isn't the same... Amitiés

Great news!

 
 By: eklektik : January 17th, 2022-12:18
I hope the magic comes back as it is a beautiful watch celebrating an important milestone! Yes, things are good here, I hope it is the same for you! Best, E.

Hi E.

 
 By: Alfihar : January 17th, 2022-21:03
Thanks for your kind words. Things are good too here. Best Ø

My duo is back..

 
 By: Alfihar : January 16th, 2022-17:27
Watch picjed up... The managing director was absent due to Covid. I went down to the basement of Vendôme boutique , gave the service ref to the customer director, then after some minutes the manager arrived... He seemed very stressed, at least more than d...  

Thanks Fastwong

 
 By: Alfihar : January 17th, 2022-08:21
This story just confirm that we now live in a world of virtual images. And JLC like other brands want to preserve their image at all costs. They should know that narcissism leads to drowning in the lake… In the particular case the lake of Joux is not far ... 

Agree, more than ever it is buyer beware as illusion and reality diverge more and more. I'll always remember dropping off my Duometre for repair a 3rd time and receiving a marketing email for a JLC watchmaking course right after :)

 
 By: Fastwong : January 17th, 2022-18:13
Brand marketing has no shame so the watches must stand on their own merits since the big brands aren't going to deliver on customer experience. Fortunately, I think the Duometres are excellent irrespective of the JLC brand. If anything, I'd like to think,... 

Well said 👏

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : January 17th, 2022-18:41

1 m’y friend

 
 By: Alfihar : January 17th, 2022-20:58
Best Ø

I have (unfortunately) to agree with you…

 
 By: Alfihar : January 17th, 2022-20:55
Jaeger LeCoultre makes very beautiful pieces ... Unfortunately all does not match the excellence of their creation

Complications watches are…

 
 By: pjphilippe : March 12th, 2022-03:47
…complex. And the more complex these are the more parts and the more can go wrong and the more the expense to fix. Now, I wonder, was the watch guarantee expired already ? The repairs associated with a screw which unscrews or breaks whilst the watch is un... 

IMHO

 
 By: MTR : January 16th, 2022-19:45
I've learned not to expect too much. In the end watch manufacturers and dealers are not our friends. It's about business and money. And with your disappointment you end up harming yourself the most. I can understand your disappointment and anger. But at t... 

I agree… it’s only a watch..

 
 By: Alfihar : January 17th, 2022-08:13
the main things are elsewhere... Best Ø