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Jaeger Lecoultre Geophysic True Second and Universal Time: The review.

 
 By: amanico : September 29th, 2015-22:04
How to start? With the launch of the Tribute, Jaeger-Lecoultre had the secret idea to build a whole new family with the Geophysic. The Tribute was the first member, playing the card of the past, clearly, with one concession, the movement, which is not man...  

There is no secret anymore. The Geophysic family just got bigger and better

 
 By: Bill : September 29th, 2015-22:12
I need to review the Geophysic article at least three more time to catch all the great new stuff. Big thank you for all the work you do to bring these great surprises to our life. Thanks Bill

Not convinced,even if the UT is ..catching

 
 By: moc : September 29th, 2015-23:57
The dead second leaves me cold,especially after great examples of this complication from other brands(mainly indies). The universal time is nice looking,but follows a "group "strategy? Vc,Montblanc and now JLC , seem there is one for every pocket... Nice ... 

Well, world timers are not new, for JLC...

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-00:55
Look at the Extrem World Alarm, or the Extrem World Chronograph. It's been alost ten years JLC is playing with this complication. It was not illogic JLC went for a new and more elegant world time. With the former WT, we had another complication, the alarm... 

Let me rephrase..

 
 By: moc : September 30th, 2015-02:05
JLC have all the legitimacy,so have many other brands,to decline this complication once again..it is in their heritage indeed... We can't deny though that the comparison with very recent offerings from brands of the same group is almost inevitable... lets... 

Well, you can say the same for Chonographs...

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-13:41
If it has two subdials and a column wheel, then it is an alter ego of the Patek, Vacheron, Longines, Minerva, and so on... Same for the World Times: Look at the vintage Cottier, Patek, Vacheron, and so on... They all look the same. Same for Vintage Diving... 

Agree on all looking pretty much the same...

 
 By: moc : October 1st, 2015-02:18
and that is a bit...discouraging at times,but hell,to each his own...The dead second is a beautiful feature,one of my favourite complication across the board so I welcome that. I saw the watch last night...much better impression live,its very nice,I am wo... 

I saw an intriguing detail...

 
 By: amanico : October 1st, 2015-02:40
The angles of the bridges are beveled, but not polished... Nice, but does that mean that we'll have a superlative decoration on pieces to come? I absolutely share your obsession for the Duometre, but it is not a secret, here. All the best, Nicolas

I also got that feeling...

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : October 1st, 2015-15:30
All of a sudden Universal Times are being presented by 'everyone'. Guess that Montblanc started something... Do have to say though that the JLClooks very nice. Much more refined than the Montblanc. But at Montblancs price point I guess that is a given. Ab... 

Not sure about " all of a sudden "...

 
 By: amanico : October 1st, 2015-22:39
Vacheron came with their WT some 5 years ago, Patek WT was born ( the modern, not the vintage ) in 2000, Tissot some 3 years ago, only Montblanc launched their Orbis Terrarum this year, but JLC had several WT during these last 10 years, always with an add... 

Re.

 
 By: msimhamb : October 2nd, 2015-20:38
I have the Patek and Vacheron world timers and just picked up the steel JLC UT. They all have similarities in that there is a world time disk and the hour hand can be moved in discrete increments independent of the minute hand, but beyond that there are d... 

Aaah, msimhamb, I would love to see the family picture!

 
 By: amanico : October 2nd, 2015-22:36
Thank you so much for this interesting feedback. I agree on many points. I am not a fan of folding buckles which most of the time " pinch " my wrist. So a pin buckle ala TT Geophysic would have been more interesting for me. I have to agree with you on the... 

Thanks for the comprehensive report Nicolas

 
 By: Dave G : September 29th, 2015-22:24
I do like the Universal time the most (in steel). It will be interesting to see it live. The dead seconds watch I am less convinced about. I appreciate the movement, but the overall look doesn't quite do it for me. I think the date is the issue. I prefer ... 

agree! loving the Universal Time

 
 By: Seeks : September 29th, 2015-23:03
dead beat second on world timer with a fine dial...JLC hit the right spots IMHO cheers -- Seeks

Just as a quick 1st reply: To me, very nice arrivals in a another seminal post of yours.. My personal fav - of course - The WT/ss :)))

 
 By: hs111 : September 30th, 2015-00:09
Love the oveall appeal and also the philosophy behind it. Geophysic, travellng, adventure, exploring the world, plus the cute metaphor of a projection starting at North Pole .. Size wise it seems very pleasing, for eye & your wrist ! As a first response t... 

Thanks for your input, my friend.

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-00:57
The UT is pretty convincing, I think many will agree. Now, the difference in price between the steel True Second and the World Time is too huge, I totally agree with that. The 6 K euros premium is too high, in my opinion. Other than that, a pretty convinc... 

for me this is a mistake

 
 By: Tyo : September 30th, 2015-03:53
an universal dial is valued 5k€??!!

Not only the dial, but also the module. But yes, I get your point.

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-07:35
There are two ways to see it: OR the True Second is not expensive enough, OR the Universal Time is too expensive. Best, Nicolas

Well.. The future is already now !.. Love the new arrival !.. Thx for your kind looking & your encouragement.. Best & HAGWE !

 
 By: hs111 : October 10th, 2015-09:09
Geophysic Universal Time Lots of charme & appeal Viewing the world.. Sending you & yours kind greetings ! hs ...  

Well, in a way yes & no.. Still have my Geographic ( no real WT, but close)..

 
 By: hs111 : October 10th, 2015-09:57
.. And then the Black Memovox international; also here functionally almost a WT, although the cities are more indication.. Thus, generally speaking 3, in fact 1 - This one ! Best, hs PS: Meanwhile I have parted from the MMV International ( was a safe quee... 

UTC is a winner:

 
 By: drphileasfogg : September 30th, 2015-00:43
- No date - A design in the line of the VC worldtimer but slimmer, and also nicer than the Montblanc - A correct time zone for Moscow (for the non PP worldtimer fans like me) - A steel version that seems the best from photos (and the best metal to travel ... 

Thanks for your feedback, Phileas. The choice of steel is a good point.

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-07:43
I didn't see it this way, to be honest, but for travels, it is indeed better to have a steel watch... Even if you have to know a watch is in precious metal when it is in... White metal. Best, Nicolas.

Great review Nicolas!

 
 By: 219 : September 30th, 2015-01:04
Saw the watch last night at the London Boutique! A small party to celebrate the new watch and movement! Apparently the "True Second" name came from James Gurney of SalonQP. Of course it is reminiscent of Rolex and TruBeat. The balance wheel is also simila... 

Too bad! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 1st, 2015-12:05

Perfect presentation and superb watch !

 
 By: tombub : September 30th, 2015-01:34
Beau travail Nico; J'ai hâte de voir l'universal time en réel ! Ciao !

Merci, mon Ami. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-07:45

Thank you Nico

 
 By: dr.kol : September 30th, 2015-02:23
for a FANTASTIC introduction. The Universal Time, especially in steel, is a super cool watch. Patek has World Times but those watches are always made of "noble" metal. But in steel, wow! Furthermore, the dial is really attractive and not as brighter and (... 

Very nice, both

 
 By: KMII : September 30th, 2015-02:45
And thanks for both bringing us the news somewhat sooner and - as usual - in a truly comprehensive fashion. I agree with your comment on the UT - it is difficult to tell at a glance which city is used as a basis. But otherwise excellent. I fell the True S... 

Will try to do so - there seem to be several ADs around

 
 By: KMII : September 30th, 2015-09:31
And a shop which may be an official Boutique

Yep. ;) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-13:42

I need to see "in metal" ...

 
 By: nilomis : September 30th, 2015-03:04
Nicolas, Again and again, a post to save. Congratulations. I'm not, as of now, a particular fan of "dead seconds" but ... tastes changes. About the Universal Time, I got some non-Vlad pictures of it this morning and my initial reaction was "corny!!!". The... 

Thanks for your kind words, Nilo.

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-07:57
I tried to describe as well was I could the charm of this dial, but see it in the real, play with it under different angles and perspectives, you will see. Best, Nicolas

Tsss, Bill... ;) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 9th, 2015-14:15

I saw in metal and ...

 
 By: nilomis : October 9th, 2015-14:18
They didn\'t smile for me. I believe that the dead seconds is a great technology feat but I\'m old fashioned and I prefer the running seconds not jumping "a la quartz". Cheers, Nilo

Thank you!

 
 By: Esharp : September 30th, 2015-03:22
Nico, Well, you know I've been eagerly anticipating finding out what JLC had up its sleeve. Thank you for a comprehensive introduction! This is a very interesting development. I'll admit I'm not sure about whether the ticking seconds complication appeals ... 

Several interesting points, Esharp...

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-08:05
The Dead Seconds is a very special feature. I guess that for those who are used with " continuous " seconds may be a bit disoriented, indeed. Now, as for the date window, I share your taste, but that was predictable. Same for the wording on the dial. Less... 

Nice introduction - thanks

 
 By: cfn : September 30th, 2015-03:33
Hi Nicolas, Well done, great pictures and - not least - a personal opinion based on your long history with JLC. When I first saw the two watches a while ago, I immediately reacted to the UT version. Beautifully done, great complication, etc. But the True ... 

The austerity of the True Second... It is truly that. ;)

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-08:12
Technical and discrete. Almost " intellectual ". I would have loved it with less wording and no date, but it is just my opinion and taste. Some will regret that the Geophysic family gets bigger, I don't agree. As long as the watches are interesting... Bes... 

thank you Nicolas

 
 By: Tyo : September 30th, 2015-04:02
for this review, perfect. I was wake up at 3 AM as announced to read it, but other insiders gave us the information earlier in the night. As the others I need to see the watch in metal, the 41.6 of the UT doesn't fit me à priori. I also think JLC for the ... 

Aaah, the screws on the dial...

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-07:53
That's a detail which intrigued me, I must say, when I first saw the watch. JLC didn't want to take the risk to see the dial moving in case of shock. It would have been better without, though. But technically, where to fix the base of the dial, in total s... 

We are convinced..

 
 By: Seeks : September 30th, 2015-04:28
Ambos and I had the luck to get delivery of these. Thank you JLC! Will post further macros later. The dial is fine and detailed cheers -- Seeks ...  

Initial comparisons

 
 By: Ambos : September 30th, 2015-05:07
Apologies for the quality... Only 1.1mm difference, but visually substantially bigger looking ...  

Congratulations to you, too. A good point that these watches are immediately available.

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-08:44
Interesting size comparison, too. Best, my dear friend. Nicolas

Important detail/ difference

 
 By: Ambos : September 30th, 2015-10:10
Not marketed by JLC in their usual humble way... But for us Geeks, worthwhile mentioning: there is a special series most likely only sold via JLC Boutiques which will be a very limited run ( say 100?) for early birds! Compare the official movement photos ...  

Is that a feature or missing parts?

 
 By: reintitan : September 30th, 2015-15:06
I must say I was underwhelmed with the aesthetics of the True Seconds when I first saw it last night, but these wrist shots from Ambos and the comparison to the TT Geophysic 1958 has me re-evaluating my stance. It's starting to grow on me. But these price... 

This collection should have been called the Geomatic True Second and Universal Time

 
 By: reintitan : September 30th, 2015-17:14
Here's a picture of the original Geophysic and Geomatic from right here on PuristsPro. The True Second dial and hands derive directly from this Geomatic; even the two lines of text above the 6 o'clock and especially the date calendar. link to the post: ww...  

Yes, I agree with you on that. Geomatic True Second, but imagine...

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-21:55
A MUT 38, 39 or even 40 case, with this dial and hands, and this Cal 770... A hit! Best, Nicolas

Anything but the Geophysic moniker IMHO. These two watches

 
 By: reintitan : September 30th, 2015-23:58
especially the True Second have their lineage (and would align better) in collections other than the Geophysic line IMHO. I would 100% accept them as modern Geomatics or part of the MUT line. They should have kept the Geophysic collection for watches with... 

Agreed on your thoughts about the Geomatic. It would have been a nice one!

 
 By: amanico : October 1st, 2015-00:13
It is mainly a problem of name, and case, then. Best, Nicolas

I agree with all this.

 
 By: Tiggermelad : October 1st, 2015-00:56
The Cal 770 as a Geomatic in a 38mm case would be very hard to resist. To me 40mm is too big for a time-only watch - too much empty space on the dial. I must say that I sometimes feel frustrated by JLC. I admire their history and their technical prowess, ... 

I think not! But

 
 By: Tiggermelad : November 8th, 2015-01:25
I did try this watch in the metal and was pleasantly surprised. The cal 770 is an interesting movement and it would fill a gap in my collection. But as reintitan has explained the watch should clearly be a Geomatic. I can hardly believe that one word on a... 

Exactly!

 
 By: Ambos : September 30th, 2015-19:01
Nicely decorated with perlage and clearly intended as the bolts on the base plate to secure the other bridge are missing.

In Nico's pics above the steel UT movement (photo #45) does not have the bridge either

 
 By: reintitan : September 30th, 2015-19:16
while the steel True Second movement (photo #30) does have the bridge. Since both movements use cal. 770 as a base calibre the base plates should be interchangeable. Perhaps some True Second watches were assembled with UT base plates? Or maybe they are as... 

No, no... When I took the pictures, as you can see, JLC was assembling some movements.

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-22:36
So, I take a movement without bridge, just for the picture, just to see more of the Gyrolab. Best, Nicolas

Ah yes!

 
 By: Conkers : October 6th, 2015-20:01
I just saw this post about the early bird version. The dealer explained it to me when I bought mine but he wasn\'t clear how many would comprise the early bird movement. I will take some more photos and add to my thread.

Nice detail, indeed. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 2nd, 2015-13:42

Wow! Congratulations, my friend. That was pretty fast...

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-08:43
So, if I got it well, YOU got the Universal Time? Bravo! All the best, Nicolas

Yes I did!

 
 By: Seeks : September 30th, 2015-09:05
I didn\'t have much of choice after seeing it in the metal! In the midst of taking some macros and will post shortly Thanks for the great review - much have taken you along time!! Much appreciated from all of us -- Seeks

Great writeup Nico! Agree re: the date, the auto, and those pesky 2 lines! Steel is nice!

 
 By: watchthatman : September 30th, 2015-04:32
Rose gold, I'm not so sure. I love the case of the dead second, but when I see the date and know it's automatic, my preference shifts to the straight MC date.

I must confess that I was more convinced by the Universal Time, too.

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-10:48
Thanks for your feedback, my friend.

;) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-13:58

I don't know where you read that these to new Geophysics are antimagnetic.

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-10:49
For me, they are not, while the Tributes are... Best, Nicolas

Yes... And no...

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-12:39
The vintage Geophysic De Luxe was NOT amagnetic.... Best, Nicolas

Superb Report, Mixed Feelings Regarding the Watches

 
 By: Tim_M : September 30th, 2015-05:13
Nicolas, as ever, your reporting and photos amount to the platinum standard for content on this site. Even though I spent several hours with all of these watches in the metal on Saturday night, I awaited your review and original insights with baited breat... 

As usual, very interesting feedback, Tim.

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-11:02
Nothing evocative of JLC? Well, there are some watches which are not very evocative, such as the Extreme Lab One, or Two. Good, bad? There are two different camps. Those who only want tradition, and those who only swear by Innovation. I am in both camps. ... 

Do you see the "fresh and mad wind" blowing again at JLC?

 
 By: watchthatman : October 2nd, 2015-07:21
They seemed to have an amazing run under Lambert, but I wonder if that\'s the direction richemont wanted to continue. I can\'t place this all on Riedo. I think the directors are responsible for succession here and the new products, at least as much as Rie... 

We'll soon see, with the 2016 Collection. One year and a half is too short to come with...

 
 By: amanico : October 2nd, 2015-07:28
Plenty of mad offers. I don't think we would like to see 10 crazy and new watches to come... It is too much. But 3 or 4, why not? We have to give Mr Riedo some time to come with something mad, exciting, whatever you want. Time to develop the product, to b... 

That's another problem. They can do very interesting things, but for some reasons...

 
 By: amanico : October 2nd, 2015-07:38
You can't love them... I understand that. Best, Nicolas

Exceptional Report, Nicolas, thousand thanks for it!

 
 By: Speedie74 aka Mr. Torquise : September 30th, 2015-05:31
I am happy and sad for the same reason: Happy, because the Geophysic family is growing, and in the same time a little bit sad: the watch won't be anymore so unique, as it was for over 50 years.. I think the new models won't be able to challenge with the o... 

Very interesting feedback, Adam.

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-11:47
I see your point on your mixed feelings about the " threatened " uniqueness of the original Geophysic. Though, at that time, I mean in the end of the Fifties, the future of watchmaking was clearly automatic. Automatic movements were seen as a progress. So... 

Hello dear Nicolas! Well... what to say about your presentation...

 
 By: Subexplorer : September 30th, 2015-07:31
... Superb! Both the introduction and explanation about the meaning of the sophisticated complication of the dead seconds feature, the awesome photography, etc. everything exceeded my expectations about what you were to reveal us when you announced yester... 

+1 on much, if not all you wrote.. Those screws really seem to be a bit superfluous & may be disturbing.. ;)

 
 By: hs111 : September 30th, 2015-08:44
We\'ll have to see, if relevant on the wrist-looking distance.. Well, the cities non-rotating, has it\'s ups & downs.. At least you get the dark & daylight areas. " on voir".. Best, hs

Indeed, the Geophysic, the original one, came with several dials and two cases.

 
 By: amanico : September 30th, 2015-12:22
But, indeed again, there was no complication, just a dedication to precision. Which is good enough for us. Diversifying the Geophysic is good for one thing: The case. I am less and less convinced by the Master Case. Ultra Thin yes, Master Control, no. So,... 

Thank you for your kind answer Nicolas! No doubt I´ll take a look to this new UT as soon as I can.

 
 By: Subexplorer : September 30th, 2015-12:40
I keep feeling impressed for the pictures and text of this presentation my friend! What a Job you did here! Un abrazo, Abel.

What A Fantastic Pair, I Can't Wait To...

 
 By: elliot55 : September 30th, 2015-07:55
... See it in the metal. I'm heading over to Beverly Hills boutique today for a private showing. Thanks for a superb report, now I've gotta have one. Besides all the amazing new features this movement offers, the "Indy Racer" steering wheel balance struct... 

Simply Fantastic... I Am Surprised JLC Did Not...

 
 By: elliot55 : October 1st, 2015-08:38
... Do something special for each boutique. Instead of "L.Angeles", it could be "Bev Hills", or "Manhattan" instead of "New York", for example. The dial is fantastic. I love the tremblage decoration. Gorgeous! Also love the way the hour hand moves with th...  

That's an idea, since JLC has Boutiques almost all over the world.

 
 By: amanico : October 1st, 2015-08:49
It looks like a strong love affair is starting, my friend... Best, and see you soon. Nicolas

So much to read, so much to say

 
 By: Mark in Paris : September 30th, 2015-09:13
That's a great report Nicolas, thank you. I'll have to take more time but this is what I would say, from your text and pictures: The Tirbute to Geo. seems much much more appealing in the design than the 3 hands True Second. The TS (True Second) has style ... 

The very interesting part of these 2 watches is the movement, for sure.

 
 By: amanico : October 1st, 2015-00:27
It is always a pleasure to welcome a true new movement from JLC. The True Second? I don't see it as a contender of the Tribute. It plays a totally different game: Innovation and Imagination. The Universal Time? My favorite, too. I find it more consistent ... 

Right way to go :) [nt]

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 1st, 2015-02:40

amazing detailed report.

 
 By: timlua : September 30th, 2015-10:26
tnx so much for this Nico. the UT ss is a piece to have. sooner than later I hope

OMG what a review!

 
 By: Mike H : September 30th, 2015-10:42
Huge work you have done here, many thanks my friend. I believe I share the same point of view as many: the True Second is surely interesting to look at but... the Universal Time is very very attractive and will certainly be a hit. Let's see that stuff in ... 

Love everything except two details.....

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 30th, 2015-13:50
First, thank you for a great review! My general impression is that these are two winners! The case is just great! Love the mix of brushed and polished surfaces. Need to see these in real to judge the size... The movement is a big improvement! Very nice. N...  

Same reserves here, even if in the real, you don't see these screws that much.

 
 By: amanico : October 1st, 2015-07:29
But it would have been better without. As for the name... That was my immediate reaction when I saw the watch. Best, Nicolas

Automatic and Date....

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : October 2nd, 2015-02:11
Of course this is a Geomatic! Best Blomman

Yes.. Truly. ;) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 2nd, 2015-02:30

nice worldtime....

 
 By: Fricks : September 30th, 2015-14:55
... even the screws on the dial, are ok, if they can align them straight up. I find it much nicer than its VC brother. Good they didn't make a thick case. JLC was slowing down since a while or is it me? Anyway, its better to have less novelties but with m... 

I much prefer the case and the movement of the JLC than the VC.

 
 By: amanico : October 1st, 2015-10:50
Yes, Fricks, JLC put the foot on the brake, these last three years. Look, for example, at what happened this year: These two Geophysic, and well, new dials on already known watches, at the exception of the Duometre Sphero moon. Past year: The Tributes to ... 

yes true...

 
 By: Fricks : October 1st, 2015-11:26
... even if you are pushing it with "a touch of madness" The extrem lab was, the sphero tourbillon also, but here, feels like they are just keeping the head out of the water. Btw, missed your nice long reviews, you don't have to hibernate if they do

who told you i missed it?

 
 By: Fricks : October 1st, 2015-12:34
but it felt like deja-vu but in another color. Your pics were very nice though

The steel Universal Time is awesome! I'll say it, nicer than the Montblanc...

 
 By: MichaelC : September 30th, 2015-15:16
watch that has received so much attention (and rightfully so, it is a great offering). But the dial on this one is to die for, I am now happy to have resisted the MB as I would rather own this JLC. Nicolas, a real epic report... not that I am surprised ;-... 

Nice introduction

 
 By: grandcomplication : September 30th, 2015-19:16
Thanks for the introducing the new members of the family to us. I find the WT in steel the most compelling of the group and look forward to seeing one in person. I appreciate these not having a solid casebook. The movements definitely deserve some attenti... 

When there is something interesting to see, which is the case here,

 
 By: amanico : October 2nd, 2015-02:09
The see through case back is good. There is a lot to discover with these 2 watches, it takes a bit of time to understand and appreciate them. I have the feeling the UT will be a success. Best, and thanks for your feedback, Grandcomplication. Nicolas

A monumental post

 
 By: vitalsigns : September 30th, 2015-20:25
A monumental post So much history and detail Your usual inimitable effort, commentary and pictures...a big thanks for this unveiling On to the watches... LIKES: -->A new movement! Thank you JLC for respecting the Geophysic heritage by creating a technical... 

Thank you so much for this in depth feedback, John.

 
 By: amanico : October 2nd, 2015-03:41
I totally agree with you on several points, such as the wording on the True Second, the fact that you have to love the way the dead second is displayed ala Quartz Watch, and the fact that I would have appreciated some polished bevels. The bevels exist, bu... 

Clarification

 
 By: vitalsigns : October 2nd, 2015-09:09
Thank you for the clarification on the hour hand. Although there is a traditional adjustment mechanism, it still seems odd that the hour adjustment mechanism doesn't jump since precision is a selling point here. But I'm satisfied as long as the traditiona... 

Question regarding the Universal Time...

 
 By: Kamy : October 1st, 2015-02:30
First and foremost, thank you so much for a wonderful and detailed review! My question is in regards to non-standard time zones. What if one lives in a part of the world where the time is offset by 30 minutes? Would setting the watch to your local time me... 

Your question is clear. The answer will be, too. ;)

 
 By: amanico : October 2nd, 2015-03:56
There is no way to set the time in places where the time is 30 or 45 minutes different. As most of the World Timers.... At the exception of the Vacheron, which has 37 ( if I remember correctly ) time zones. Best, Nicolas

I guess I'll have to move... maybe to Paris? ;)

 
 By: Kamy : October 2nd, 2015-06:54
Thanks for the reply Nicolas! Much regards, Kamy

Great and thorough report, Nico.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : October 1st, 2015-12:42
2 very interesting watches. I am not sure how I feel about dead beat seconds, but the appearances of the watches are superb.

Hi Padj. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

 
 By: amanico : October 3rd, 2015-00:05
You have to see them in the real, and to play with them. Dead Seconds are to be seen in the flesh. Not sure you will love that feature, but give it a try! Best, Nicolas

Thanks for that presentation and the very nice pictures (including the close up post)! ...

 
 By: eklektik : October 1st, 2015-14:08
... You must have struggled to keep that for you that long Personally, i'm not too keen on the date (and the choice of hands?) of the true second, and not two keen on the two screws for the dial of the UT. I would stick to the TT. One day maybe... One thi... 

As for the pocket watch I posted, I don't have a picture of the dial.

 
 By: amanico : October 3rd, 2015-02:15
I saw it, it is very classic. Simple. White. The problem with these 2 new offers is that you have to be fond of the dead second and of the world time complication. As for the True Second, the date is the main issue, when it comes to a Geophysic. I do get ... 

Love it, the world time in rose gold is awesome

 
 By: Hulkbuster : October 1st, 2015-22:58
Love it, the world time in rose gold is awesome

Goes well even with shorts

 
 By: Hulkbuster : October 1st, 2015-23:00
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First of all: thank you Nicolas. Reading your review is a great experience.

 
 By: massi. : October 2nd, 2015-13:02
Said that, I find the "simple" True Second very very nice, for my taste I prefer it rather the WT. I must confess that when I learned that the True Second has the date I was very skeptical about that (in most cases, for my taste of course, the date ruin t... 

Thanks for your feedback, Massi, about these 2.

 
 By: amanico : October 2nd, 2015-13:41
Yes, the True Second iis very intellectual. Please keep us posted whne you see them. Best, Nicolas

Wow wow wow...

 
 By: Semper Fidelis : October 5th, 2015-11:03
Thank you very much for giving us all so much incredible insight! Read it twice just to make sure not to miss any detail... And what great photography...! Very fine timepieces indeed - little wonder my brother had to acquire one on the spot On another not... 

Yes he does - we picked it up together, Ambos and I...

 
 By: Semper Fidelis : October 5th, 2015-17:56
Shared joy is double the joy, isn\'t it

Fantastic post Nico

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 5th, 2015-13:39
I like them both to be honest. As you said it right the True Second should be called a Geomatic. For the world time, agreed price is a bit steep but it's a great looking watch. Only thing I'm uncomfortable with is the screws. Need to see in the flesh to b... 

They look a a lot better in real life

 
 By: jml_watches : October 8th, 2015-12:46
Hi I was in London earlier in the week and did my normal trick - wander around a few watch shops. While I was collecting one watch from its service and looking at something else, I noticed that the shop I was in had got some Geophysics in. So thought I'd ... 

Yes, the TS dial is subtle and the UT dial has a nice depth, both being tough to take in picture.

 
 By: amanico : October 9th, 2015-01:22
Interesting feeling about the way the second hand moves with the Cal 770 / 772. I feel a lot of people will feel the same. That's the magic of the dead second. A kind of secret signature, like Platinum, looking like steel. Best, Nicolas

I read the report again...

 
 By: Echi : October 10th, 2015-03:13
I really appreciate how you put this all together. I enjoyed the explanation of the dead seconds. Of course, I gave up trying to figure out how that movement worked in the diagram. I wonder if the UTC will be more popular than the simple time/date as the ... 

The UT is easier to understand. The True Second is more intellectual.

 
 By: amanico : October 11th, 2015-11:27
The True Second focuses on the Dead Second. While in the UT, it is included, but the World Time is the star. Not the same approach. Best, Echi, and thanks for reading. Nicolas