excellent point

Mar 20, 2018,15:51 PM
 

not only do I want to have a personal connection with my next watch, I suppose I should consider whether the maker will be available to service the watch in the future. Case in point, I have always loved the Svend Andersen Original Secular Perpetual watch. The problem is his company is now being run by another and Svend is not a young man anymore. That is a very complex watch and I would hate to not have a good source to service it in the future. Once in a great while, one will pop up for sale, but I have not pursued the watch for the very service issues you mention.
Paul


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support your local independent watchmaker! Or not...

 
 By: chosenhandle : March 19th, 2018-13:47
Gentlemen, I visit it daily and appreciate the experience and expertise that I find on this site. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! One of these days, I will make a meaningful contribution myself! Over time, my thoughts on acquiring watches has evolved f...  

Why would you draw a line ?

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : March 19th, 2018-14:00
Just buy a watch you like the most and if there is a nice click with the brand cq watchmaker thats a plus imho . Like you i pref indie brands ๐Ÿค—. ...  

Yup! (nt)

 
 By: MTF : March 19th, 2018-15:08

+1

 
 By: Alkiro1 : March 19th, 2018-15:18
Best wishes Alkiro

Some time ago I took a survey of the "independent" watches owned by PuristS

 
 By: cazalea : March 19th, 2018-16:42
Here are the names of watches they own - we could not agree on whether AHCI or not was important; if once independent now brand was important or not. Svend Andersen Soren Andersen Hajime Asaoka Felix Baumgartner Aaron Becsei Robert Bray Vincent Calabrese ... 

Urwerk

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : March 20th, 2018-00:00
H Moser & cie

the dutch

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2018-18:16
Bart and Tim Gronefeld Fred Dingemans

๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿค— [nt]

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : March 21st, 2018-00:05

+1

 
 By: nafetS : March 20th, 2018-01:56
Finding a watch I want comes First. No need to Draw lines.

Indies - They may well be the future of the business...... :-)

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : March 19th, 2018-14:22
You use a couple of good examples at somewhat the ends of the spectrum. Are you suggesting there is some kind of metric that is a cut-off? Like annual production numbers, or turnover beyond which 'they're too big'? They're all an order of magnitude or mor... 

Very true. +1 [nt]

 
 By: Euroasianstar : March 19th, 2018-15:53

Thank you for your thoughts

 
 By: chosenhandle : March 19th, 2018-17:53
I think what I was trying to ascertain is what is the value of a relationship I would have with Lang & Heyne as compared to Journe. L&H gives you a world class product and access to the designer, Journe does not (to my knowledge anyway). Does that access ... 

+1

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2018-18:17
very true.

There are many reasons to purchase a particular watch. None of the reasons are wrong if they suit you. What may interest me may not ring a bell do you. To me whatโ€™s most important is to follow your heart and oen personal logic.

 
 By: Mitch K : March 19th, 2018-21:30
I enjoy many different pieces for different reasons. Most of my watches carry with them a combination of technology, art and story. It is the story that the watch is involved in is what makes the piece a piece u inquest for me. That story can occur with a... 

Is there a "soul"?

 
 By: Watch_time_it_is : March 19th, 2018-22:18
Personally, when I have encountered this same question, I've looked for the soul of the watch. As obscure a concept in watches as in humans. The question I ask myself is "can I feel the hand of the watchmaker on the watch, the design, the movement, the de... 

Iโ€™m 100% with you

 
 By: manilx : March 19th, 2018-23:37
And switched to that path also. The as you name it conglomerate watches are (some noble exceptions remain) going out of my collection and independents come in. Notably ochs und junior. The fun and satisfaction of wearing something which has a great part o... 

well said [nt]

 
 By: chosenhandle : March 20th, 2018-15:47

For me, it is most important

 
 By: sham1 : March 20th, 2018-03:58
that I receive excellent before sale and after sale service be it the watch comes from an independent or a large company. It is always an added bonus to be able to speak to the actual watchmaker of course as one feels a closer connection to the brand. But... 

excellent point

 
 By: chosenhandle : March 20th, 2018-15:51
not only do I want to have a personal connection with my next watch, I suppose I should consider whether the maker will be available to service the watch in the future. Case in point, I have always loved the Svend Andersen Original Secular Perpetual watch... 

Quite true BUT

 
 By: manilx : March 20th, 2018-23:52
This is exactly one of the main reasons I switched to an independent brand. The service of all the big ones just suck! Their main objective was the shareholder, selling more and more watches. They possibly cannot repair and service ina timely and qualativ... 

I too would not tolerate such appalling service

 
 By: sham1 : March 21st, 2018-01:30
but I have had very good experiences personally with a few of the big brands and I think it bores down mainly to the authorised dealer(AD). If you have a good AD, the brand will appear good. I have had experiences of good and bad ADs with the same brand s... 

no "personal touches" from Journe??

 
 By: gengar : April 20th, 2018-02:50
Journe is no smarmy salesperson and he's very strong-minded, but he is huge on building relationships with his collectors. Not sure why you would think that's not the case. This is reflected in his company culture on the sales side. Walking into one of hi... 

sorry for the late reply, I didn't see this until today

 
 By: chosenhandle : May 22nd, 2018-11:31
I totally agree that Journe is a top shelf company with respectable people to assist customers. The watch brands mentioned are simply used as an example. In the case I made, if I wanted to interact directly with the designers or Mr. Lang himself at L&H, I... 

There is obviously a line to draw...

 
 By: ztirual : May 23rd, 2018-06:31
Not many independents will seek and nurture this very special connection with you. Always there to greet you, always there to advise you, always ready to dream with you and make your dreams come true. With time such a watchmaker becomes a very close frien...