Independents

Their more affordable version of the Balancier. I had the chance to try a few of the Balancier models at an AD in CDMX recently and was really wowed by them in person. The curved crystals are very very cool and they wear nicely. When I did a bit more rese...  

They said that GF is very careful to maintain its standards of finishing. As m2 says, maybe the set up is simpler, but I think we'll see what's done is kept to a high level. We'll evaluate as pieces become available, should be fun!

They lose quite a bit of value second hand too. I’m sure these will be like 100 - 120 2nd hand. Still not cheap by any means though lol

...so I can buy something halfway decent for a 'mere' $50k (peanuts, I know) : )

And probably still some element of them being a very easy means of avoiding currency controls.

I like the simpler design and that big arm reaching down to the second hand looks cool. However, my first impression when seeing the picture was not GF but Grönefeld. Cazalea

On the other hand - there are way too many variations which spells trouble - the first balancier with the engraved bezel, then the smoothe bezel version, then various materials, then smaller sizes, now this ... Also despite the simplifications the price i... 

The inclined balance was the one thing that made this watch special. Now, it's just a very overpriced time-only watch, with questionable aesthetics. This is a huge miss in my book. The original balancier already trades well below retail for this new one, ... 

...is GF engraving Tolstoy novels on the movements...

But yeah, that’s just part of the aesthetics. Polarizing for sure. You either like it or you don’t. As for the size, the older ones packed in so much into the movements, the sizes really are explainable.

...if there is a lot going on. But even with my reasonably large wrist, the one I saw in person was just too much.

But I do admire them for what they are

...and have whatever that special something is that make you notice them from afar...

With smooth bezel, and thought the level of comfort afforded to the wearer is brilliant. That piece changed my view of GF in a positive direction. I think tt was the S2 Convexe, but don't remember anymore. Chk

Have seen other brands constantly say “the early pieces” when constituting superior quality or good old days. GF is the king in my book.. at leas the early pieces back in the good old days

Totally out of my range for a time-only and don't really love the "lugs" (from the pictures), but I'm sure that it looks good on the wrist.

I know some collectors are treating finishings like picasso / van gogh paint brushes, not me....I still feel if I hire an experienced watch maker, just to focus, do nothing else, just to polish, I can get similar end results.

by the finishing, the lack of visibility of the movement but overwhelmed by the price and the size. There are so many incredibly qualitative watches out there at much lower price points.

A Cayenne turbo is a monster of an SUV, I'd happily daily one of those but probably not with my own money and it won't ever be as special to me as a Porsche sports car. The GF sports watches are awesome but the pice is challenging and I think the classic ... 

Really helpful and killed my want for the watch unless secondary prices drop a ton. Now I know who to PM when my finger is itchy

But yeah, they are screwing the collectors with so much supply. I can't believe after all the other convexe watches they announced this year and haven't delivered they dropped ANOTHER 176 watches. With the bubble bursting this is going to hurt. I still pr... 

I wonder where these will settle 2nd hand? Any thoughts?

Limited run of like 7 or 11 I think. I think all the convexe watches are also carrying "1 of XX" numbers plates instead of individually numbered watches which seems shady since then they can pull a Ferrari and really produce whatever they feel like withou... 

The level of finishing is superb AND the level of INTRIGUE is very high. I think the new management is clearly going a new direction. I believe Stephen Forsey now has less of a role and I miss him being there. ...  

And now these older Greubels can be had for increasingly attractive prices. The new stuff just leaves me so cold

My favorite is the invention piece. Pic from Gary G. I am a couple hundred thousand short though lol. 😆 ...  

The S1 has been my daily for the last couple years, barely wear my other watches ...  

I love the way they do their frosting on those

Enjoy your timepiece, chk

I was wondering if the Tourbillon Cardon might be a last work from the OG Greubel and Forsey since it was an actual new movement unlike all the other releases post Calce which have been repackaging but this is a product from the "management team" that has... 

Well-said! Chk

I was recently invited to visit the GF manufacture in La Chaux-de-Fonds. I too was concerned about a potential decline in quality of their decoration. I was insured by the account managers leading the tour and reassured by watching the decoration team wor...  

Like a country house, the property/estate is a combination of the houses, the interior, the gardens/park and the scenery, and removing either element could change your experience dramatically regardless of the quality of what remains unchanged. Place the ... 

Anyone handle the balancier 3 yet? I don’t like that they got rid of the inclined balance but one of my favorite dealers has two that are used in stock and I think his pricing will be a lot more reasonable than sticker. Kinda tempted

I think your fav dealer is my same fav dealer too, as have seen photos of one that looked great. Hope you wind up with it.

photos...?

It has an angled balance. The balancier 3 is flat