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I wanted to like this, but I didn't.
The case shape is really cool, the dial works, and I like the idea of reviving what was, in the 1940s, a very forward-looking watch by making, in the 2020s, a very-forward-looking watch.
Three complaints:
1. You referred to this: 30m water resistance. That's not a problem in general that's a problem for THIS watch. This is wayyyyy too sporty a concept not to have more serious water resistance.
2. At this price and for this maker, the movement is way too pedestrian. Remember that Angelus sells a pretty spectacular skeletonized tourbillon for $34k. This chrono, by contrast, looks and feels an AWFUL LOT like a Valjoux 7750 clone with a chunky column wheel worked in, i.e., the same thing IWC gives you in a current Portuguese Chrono. Angelus got going offering much more exciting movement-making than this.
3. It just didn't wear well, which surprised me. Especially in titanium this looks to me like the kind of 42.5mm watch that wouldn't feel too big and bulky, and yet, it did.
Watches and wonders 2023: Angelus Chronodate. 3 new iterations.
After having unveiled the Chronodate last year, Angelus comes back to this chronograph with three new versions. 2 Titanium with a black or a green dial, and a Rose Gold. The two Titanium come on a strap or a bracelet, while the rose gold comes on a strap ...
This is a technically amazing watch that doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
One of our former moderators introduced me to this brand years ago. At first I overlooked this brand probably because it isn't a famous brand that everyone has heard of (I guess I was a sheep instead of a shepherd at one point too). This is one amazing ch...
I thought otherwise about the movement, but I'd be glad to be proven wrong
I really like what Angelus has been doing but I thought this movement looked like a 7750 clone with column wheel worked in.
Hmm.
Maybe you're right... Maybe that's why the architecture is so good. I haven't compared the two movements yet. And the one the former moderator showed me was a manual wind, so I am partially over-influenced by that piece rather than the piece before us, wh...
I wanted to like this, but I didn't.
The case shape is really cool, the dial works, and I like the idea of reviving what was, in the 1940s, a very forward-looking watch by making, in the 2020s, a very-forward-looking watch. Three complaints: 1. You referred to this: 30m water resistance. Tha...
Thank you for sharing your well considered thoughts!
Yes. I definitely agree with you that water resistance is lacking. The AP Royal Oak also has terrible water resistance too - which is also unfortunate.
That’s the reason why I haven’t bought an AP Royal Oak yet.
If I want and buy a sports watch it has to be robust and not just looking / pretending to be robust. 😉 Same here for the Angelus. In addition to the poor price-performance ratio (as blau explained comprehensively: not a very impressive movement) the poor ...
That's very fair!
Yes... The AP RO is not a very sporty watch in many senses. The Patek Philippe Nautilus is also not very water resistant. Some models only have 60 meters water resistance. I personally don't recommend swimming without at least 100m water resistance.
I would even go so far as to say that
every serious premium watch should have 100m water resistance as standard. I can't imagine that the implementation is such a problem. My theory: the manufacturers don't explicitly concern themselves with this because the market doesn't appreciate the addi...
You're exactly right!
Yes. It's not a major concern for most customers. Who never think about all their needs and wants and never communicate them to the salespeople nor the manufacturers. And yes. The Luminor Due is an embarrassment! Come on Panerai! Really??? Are you kidding...
Yes, why not?
Some manufacturers invest a lot of money in R&D to make the movements thinner and thinner. Or invest to artistically embellish the dial. Why not put a bit of that effort into the development of a case that really protects the movement? Small examples: BP,...
I personally really don't like lug holes for the strap spring bars...
A lot of these Grand Seiko pieces have these lug holes.
Well, the Grand Seiko still has holes in the case.
I just don't like the hole that's visible from the outside of the lug. Just a personal preference.
Thanks for the report and pictures Nico.
I like them. I prefer the black dial over the green. All the best, Jon
I really like those.
Something different and fresh. Would really like to see one of those in the flesh.
Thanks for your analysis, Nico!!!
I finally saw one in the metal just a few weeks ago: I really liked the overall execution. However, I could do without the ‘Start,” “Stop,” and “Reset” on the pushers. They must have anticipated a lot of their buyers may become intoxicated and forget how ...
I would have picked one up as a cool vacation watch
But 30m WR makes no sense. Modern crowns, pusher and case technology and can't get better. 🤷♂️
