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brandon1 has made an excellent point. The finishing can't be faltered and the comparison is difficult due to the different manufacturing processes. I think AdC sit in quite a niche position
Jul 25, 2019,15:27 PM
and not dissimilar to what Struthers are doing in Birmingham and RGM in the US (all to varying levels of finish). I love the fact that they fuse different era's by using historically important calibers like the Omega. I guess the reason I find the price point challenging is because the R&D to bring a unique independent movement into life is not quite the same as what they have done .... But then again they are far less expensive than Romain & Kari ... so I could talk myself around ....
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Any finish level is the product of the process by which it was achieved.
By: brandon1 : July 25th, 2019-14:17
I have a high opinion of the finishing by Lange and MG, but they are simply not at the level of AdC, nor should they be given their production processes and numbers. As for a comparison, I think you need to look "up" for your competitive set. Romain and K...
Your perspective is much appreciated!
By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : July 25th, 2019-15:07
I need to see these in person someday if they are at the level of Romain and Kari! Also, that level for the price of a lange 1 is a good deal!
Yes, in-person is a must, and with a loupe.
By: brandon1 : July 25th, 2019-15:22
With Lange, what you give up in finishing you gain in technical intrigue and variety (remontoire's, jumping seconds, fusees, interesting stop seconds, etc.). The AdC philosophy, on the other hand, is to turn up the performance of classic architecture with...
Danke [nt]
By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : July 25th, 2019-15:05
AdC does not use any CNC machines in its production process
By: sham1 : July 25th, 2019-20:35
which is quite rare these days so I like to to think that they will excel in some movement finishing areas and lose out on others to the other brands with top movement finishing. Even RW Smith uses CNC machines so AdC may argue that their price point is n...
That's a good point!
By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : July 26th, 2019-04:37
I wonder how they achieve any sort of water resistance?
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By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : July 25th, 2019-14:44
Me too! [nt]
By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : July 25th, 2019-15:20
For sure the movement is nicer than the dial!
By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : July 25th, 2019-18:53
In pictures, at least. I'm not sure if this is rude (please advise), but I've just written AdC to ask if a bespoke guilloché dial is possible. The email was polite, the possible rudeness is that I don't intend to immediately put down €50,000 euros after t...
I'm not an expert on finishing but I'll try to take a crack at this...
By: jleno : July 25th, 2019-19:53
The types of finishes I try to look for first on a movement are the most difficult ones. I think these usually fall into three categories, but someone correct me if I'm wrong: 1. Free-hand engraving 2. Well-rounded anglage on the bridges, with bonus point...
I think
By: nwk00 : July 25th, 2019-23:45
comparing to the brands(for simple time only watches) you have mentioned, it can hold its weight. More interior angles and nice rounded anglage. Points for trying to do different kinds of finishing on the ratchet and winding wheel. In terms of the brands ...
Cotes de geneve are an option.
By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : July 26th, 2019-04:34
Could you explain more about how there's something gauche about all the work?
Gauche?
By: kjkt3 : July 26th, 2019-14:59
(Looking at the 2nd image ...) The work looks gauche because of the combination of frosting, an inexpensive finish, the apparently inconsistent perlage, the poor treatment around the shock protection and the complete avoidance of work to/around the screw ...
Very interesting, thanks!
By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : July 26th, 2019-15:50
It's funny how RWSmith, sometimes KV, etc., uses frosting. I don't really think of it as associated with inexpensive watches, or cote de geneve contrarywise.
"Artisanal"
By: kjkt3 : July 27th, 2019-02:52
AdC's website explains why the work on their Omega movements can look gauche and inelegant. It is "artisanal".
Just another opinion
By: batholith : July 28th, 2019-12:16
but at that price, I would suggest Romain Gauthier's work is hard to beat. That said, the ADC is certainly nicely finished.