Hmm

Dec 06, 2018,19:21 PM
 

I know a lot of people might feel a little bit offended about such critical comments but I think you might have a point too. I do love their watches, but not sure what they are really pursuing in the business. Super high retail prices, but quite lower actual sale prices, huge case sizings (now they are making smaller ones), but I recently realized they make bunch of limited edition smaller case sized models for Asian countries like Japan, to me they looked much better than the stock ones they have on their website, I do know that their quality is outstanding but in terms of managing the brand it could be done much better. May be related to your point about "what does the customer want?" Their launch of Pure line up (SS cases, less finishing for less price) was interesting in its ideas but to me it really did not work at all. Would customer want their watch in SS / minimal finishing when they cost over $10k? Because I think if someone buys a MG watch it would mostly be because of its quality of finishing (and also its looks). But to sacrifice that and still cost over $10k, hmm.


One of my other favorite brand was (note that i'm using past tense) H. Moser, I tend to like independent micro brands. But Moser, although they sacrificed some quality to run the brand more stably, are at least full of cash flow as they even make their own hairsprings. MG as a brand has a long, long way to go, even though watches' quality is almost there in the very top, I still have my doubts that the brand will do well and succeed in the future. It definitely needs more effective approach to the market. A bit disappointing to hear from actual person who talked with the CEO that Mrs. Hutter seems to not display enough passion. I would have relaxed a bit if I knew the brand is at least trying to thrive better. Well, the fact still is that their watches are absolutely superb in quality so might have to see how they change over time. 


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Was at a Moritz Grossman dinner last night

 
 By: rnaden : December 6th, 2018-03:19
Saw some really nice watches and Christine was the usual hospitable self. Some novelties (sorry I didn't get to take pictures of all the pieces on display), but I did get some pictures of those that I like. The Tefnut 36 is my favourite by far. Which is y...  

Thanks for the report dear Richard

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : December 6th, 2018-04:35
Cheers D

Posting photos are easy :-)

 
 By: rnaden : December 6th, 2018-08:11
Just sharing the joy and passion

Some nice watches...

 
 By: Nicole_S : December 6th, 2018-04:57
but there is stil much to do there. Good ideas and smart people are missing. Nici

Care to elaborate? [nt]

 
 By: rnaden : December 6th, 2018-08:10

Sure ;-)

 
 By: Nicole_S : December 6th, 2018-08:45

Please elaborate.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 6th, 2018-10:47
Do you think there is a problem with the people running MG?

No passion

 
 By: Nicole_S : December 6th, 2018-13:17
I was there and talked to Mrs. Hutter. I missed the implementation of the passion. For whom does M.G. Watches? What does the customer want? There are no answers to these questions. That's why they are on the wrong track. Nici

Hmm

 
 By: Royque : December 6th, 2018-19:21
I know a lot of people might feel a little bit offended about such critical comments but I think you might have a point too. I do love their watches, but not sure what they are really pursuing in the business. Super high retail prices, but quite lower act... 

You have me at a disadvantage.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 6th, 2018-19:37
I have not met Christina Hutter, so I cannot comment on your observation of her. I do think that the idea she started with was to compete with Lange, and in terms of quality I would say she is successful. But after the initial 4-watch models launch I have... 

Sorry...

 
 By: Nicole_S : December 6th, 2018-22:57
I know it sounds bad, but it's just my feeling. When it comes to watches, I have a certain expectation and M. Grossmann can not fulfill that. Anyway they have some nice watches... Nici

You don't have to say you're sorry... [nt]

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 7th, 2018-08:15
No message body

I agree...

 
 By: Royque : December 8th, 2018-05:47
no need to be sorry, rather I want to thank you for offering insights from a different perspective. It was more than helpful. Do you believe that it can change in the future so that they are on the right track? I really like their quality but somehow even... 

I met Christine during a similar dinner last year

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-11:45
I must confess that the appearance of a skull watch in their collection threw me off despite the finely finished movements and hands. I think Swiss watchmakers tend to be express their passion more than their German counterparts who are generally more sub... 

I don't know if you're following the thread Sham started regarding Christie's auctioning a bunch of new Moritz Grossmanns

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 8th, 2018-12:31
but it is so interesting that you made your comments about the brand at a time when they cannot seem to get anyone to bid on their pieces-which are tremendously undervalued at this point.

Yes, following that

 
 By: rnaden : December 10th, 2018-19:54
Have been waiting to see if he lands his targets too But you're right, as of this morning, there are still pieces which has attracted no bids. If not for a few pieces that just came in, I am tempted to jump in. Under appreciated...while it seems that some... 

Lovely..

 
 By: Royque : December 6th, 2018-19:04
I do love the Tefnut 36 the most because of its size but at the same time I have to say I prefer a different style of hour markers. Either index marker or Roman numerals; if Arabic at least in style of Benu 37. But that is just my preference. Tefnut had t... 

I guess it really depends...

 
 By: rnaden : December 7th, 2018-08:44
Where the Tefnut 36 is concerned, I quite like the fonts used here as it provides a little change from my Lange 1815 that I wear a lot. The Benu, while being really nice, was a little too close in aesthetic to the Lange, and I honestly would have preferre... 

The tefnut 36mm is a lovely watch Richard

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-11:05
and fits our wrists well but I have to say that the movement of the Benu is the best. Firstly at 36.4mm (that is the movement size by the way), it fills up the 41mm case so completely. The movement on the tefnut 36mm is only 26mm in size. Secondly, the be...  

The activity in the auction

 
 By: sham1 : December 10th, 2018-22:31
has picked up tremendously over the last 24 hours and I know i shall be lucky to end up with one watch!