Your "preferred dial" would also be my choice

Oct 10, 2019,04:00 AM
 

While Kari Voutilainen's guilloché dials are very attractive on their own, I always thought the bold lines of the "standard" dial design to be Grönefeld's signature design. It matches not only the bold design of the movement bridges but carries on the superb lines combining modern design with traditional watchmaking, created by the British designers Jones & Bowen for the original Parallax Tourbillon and One Hertz models.


Jones & Bowen were also hired by Steven Holtzman to create the case design of the Maîtres du Temps models.

Enjoy the wait to get this superb watch,
Björn



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A most unexpected surprise!!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-02:46
In typical Sham fashion, I tend to stalk a watch I like for many years (just to be 100% sure that the watch still appeals to me over time) before pulling the trigger and sometimes I am just too late like in the case of the Chronometre Contemporain! So whe...  

First one ist best, in my opinion.

 
 By: ronhan : October 10th, 2019-03:25
Always preferring simplicity - so the plain silver (champagne?) dial in combination with the blued hands is the most beautiful for me! Greets, Ron

Thank you Ron!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-03:41
My thoughts precisely.

The last one.

 
 By: Boron : October 10th, 2019-03:49
These are such a nice watch, limited in number, that they deserve to be a bit more special looking than the moderately plain style that is your preferred choice. If there’s no chance whatsoever of the watch being sold say in the next 5 years, if ever, the... 

Thank you for your reply!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-03:57
If there was a choice to be made, it would be between the first and third one but the AD did tell me that my choice would have to accompany my order. I personally feel that the Remontoire is such a special watch that any dial would be fine and it then bor... 

Your "preferred dial" would also be my choice

 
 By: BjoernM21 : October 10th, 2019-04:00
While Kari Voutilainen's guilloché dials are very attractive on their own, I always thought the bold lines of the "standard" dial design to be Grönefeld's signature design. It matches not only the bold design of the movement bridges but carries on the sup...  

Thank you Bjorn for the wonderful insight!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-05:52
And yes I think I shall stick to my original decision. Your argument makes perfect sense!

Well done Sham1 ! I'm very pleased for you - my preference would be the simplicity of the 1st dial which allows the small seconds chapter ring and Remontoire to stand out by themselves and

 
 By: templetowers : October 10th, 2019-04:15
highlights the beautiful blued hands - 100% silver case. Less is definitely more in this case Best wishes Will.

Thank you Will!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-05:54
I am actually quite surprised of the number of purists who have opted for the simplicity of the 1st dial. I thought many would think it was boring but I have always like it and even told Bart and Tim that and they smiled knowingly

I think I have posted more on the Remontoire

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-10:16
than anyone else without actually having owned one so I dread to think I will do when the watch finally arrives!!

Congrats on boarding the ship!

 
 By: singingbee : October 10th, 2019-04:48
The Remontoire is an amazing piece and I am glad you managed to secure one piece in Singapore. It is definitely worth the two years wait. I will go for option 1 which is the default silver dial with stainless steel case. It is a versatile and timeless com...  

Very nice photos!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-05:56
I see I am in esteemed company! It suits your wrist beautifully too. Any problems with the watch since you acquired it?!

Thanks for liking the photos

 
 By: singingbee : October 10th, 2019-06:17
The watch is not mine though, it belongs to a good friend of mine. No issue that I ever heard him mention before.

Thank you for the reassurance :-)

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-09:04
I like to buy simple watches to avoid things going wrong and the Remontoire is relatively complicated. But I hold the Gronefelds with the highest regard when it comes to watchmaking.

Simple cannot be topped

 
 By: colton_d : October 10th, 2019-04:56
The beauty of the visible remontoir speaks volumes, and I share your thoughts on the 'simple' dial being best. My dream would be to pair it with the mint-green dial they have made for other clients, but seeing as that is not an option here, the standard i... 

Mint green dial?!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-05:59
Actually every dial is an option here but I never knew that there were so many variations. I have seen the light blue, dark blue, black, salmon, grey and burgundy but a mint green is something I should look at although I dare say that the allure of the cl... 

Stock photo

 
 By: colton_d : October 10th, 2019-07:29
I have seen one collector on IG with a mint-green and I fell hard for the look, reminds me almost of the Jade dial Journe Tourbillon. If you are looking for this to fill a niche of understated elegance, maybe not the best dial option - but I struggle to t...  

Thank you for the photo!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-09:10
Nice but I think after awhile of looking at the mint dial, I might regret not getting the plain silver dial. It is for me anyway the safe bet, the classic choice!

Nice! What about a mixture of 1 and 3?

 
 By: nafetS : October 10th, 2019-06:44
The inner minute/hour circle with guillochet as in no3 and the outer Ring and second subdial plain as in 1? Don't know' If that would really Look good, but in my Imagination it does. 2 years waiting time is harsh. I had a waiting time of 4-5 months and it... 

I think the Gronefelds

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-09:08
have become especially busy since launching the Principa. The Remontoire as you correctly state never had such a long waiting list but I am so happy that it will only come in two years time as I have enough watches due in before then to keep me entertaine... 

Thank you Nico!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-09:11
I see we share similar taste so I must be on the right track with my choice!

Grats mate!

 
 By: Kid : October 10th, 2019-08:55
I prefer the first one among the 3. However, if you opt for a guilloche Kari dial, I believe you can simply design your own dial and don’t have to stick to these options. If you don’t currently have a Voutilainen in your collection and do not plan to, I’d... 

Funny you said that

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-09:16
because the thought did cross my mind. I once bought a MB&F LM101 partly because I told myself I would never be able to afford a Voutilainen so at least I can buy a watch with Kari's name engraved on the movement! A similar thought crossed my mind wit... 

lol, I think it happened to all of us before

 
 By: Kid : October 11th, 2019-02:01
and by US, I mean anyone who's into independents. Voutilainen is one of the choices most of us has to go thru when choosing which independents' work to get. Anyway, I think you have already decided and it's a good looking elegant choice! Grats once again.... 

Thank you for the congrats!

 
 By: sham1 : October 11th, 2019-02:13
I have just returned from Singapore after placing my order and leaving the required deposit. Can't believe this is actually happening. I know it is just a watch but for me it is a personal coup to secure a stainless steel piece in my preferred dial.

And now the wait begins! :D

 
 By: Kid : October 11th, 2019-20:38
grats again!

Fortunately, I am waiting for three other watches

 
 By: sham1 : October 11th, 2019-22:25
which should arrive before the Gronefeld - the Patek 5212A, the Ming 17.06 monolith and the Patek 5711/1A (yes that one! ) Quite ironically, none of them are in precious metals!

great choice!

 
 By: Kid : October 13th, 2019-09:05
I just got the chance to see 5212a in the flesh a few days back and I love it. One of the best patek release in almost a decade for me.

Try it on!

 
 By: sham1 : October 13th, 2019-09:30
I was a bit worried initially about the 40mm diameter but the lugs and the busy dial makes the watch fit a small wrist like mine. It will probably be the largest watch I will ever own together with the 5711/1A. Credit to Patek for doing an excellent job w... 

exactly!

 
 By: Kid : October 14th, 2019-05:04
I also have an abnormally small wrist so that’s one restricting factor and the reason I’d go so far to say 5212a is one of the best release for me. 5711/1a fits fine on my wrist too, as it’s a little smaller than the 40mm size would suggest. in the end, t... 

So true!

 
 By: sham1 : October 14th, 2019-09:59
Thank goodness that I can't wear a Charles Frodsham, De Bethune and most MB&Fs!!

ooh hooo....Sham you're heading in the best direction always....

 
 By: mahesh : October 10th, 2019-09:06
i think the first clean dial is best but that is in my taste....it stands out & looks elegant equally. Best, mahesh.,

Thank you Mahesh!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-09:18
We share similar tastes yet again! I am still quite shell shocked by the number of purists opting for the simple plain dial.

Ha! Ha!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-09:57
Indeed we are

Fantastic news, my friend

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 10th, 2019-10:18
I am mostly for the first one. Especially after seeing the live shots. There is already enough going on and the texture seems very lively like an early FPJ. I would keep it at that for longevity 😃 Congratulations again. I am like you- not spontaneous when... 

Christian, thank you very much for your reply

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-14:14
I am awake at 5am like a little boy excited to catch my early flight to Singapore. Yes the first dial seems to be the popular choice for good reason too and I think it will pass the test of time. The fact that it is also the dial that costs the least is a... 

First of all a HUGE Congrats my friend .

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : October 10th, 2019-10:29
I am so happy to hear that you finally are able to get a allocation for one of your dream watch . I think whatever you choose it would be a perfect watch for you . A plain Silver dial is as beautiful as a KV silver dial imho . I opted for the plain salmon... 

Thank you very much my friend!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-14:24
I know you are a great supporter of the Gronefelds and I look forward to a visit to the atelier. The road for me in finally placing an order for a Remontoire has been longer than for most and has involved me talking to ADs in USA, Switzerland, France, Sin... 

Thanks Roland!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-22:57
I am at the Seletar Airport after ordering the first dial and placing my deposit. I have seldom been more pleased buying a watch! I must apologise for not being able to meet you during this visit as my schedule was quite rushed as I have only been in Sing... 

So near yet so far!

 
 By: sham1 : October 11th, 2019-04:51
But i must confess I have no idea where Puchong is! I have only been back for two years in KL after having been in the UK for 36 years so I dare say you know Malaysia better than I do!

Sun where??

 
 By: sham1 : October 11th, 2019-04:57
Just kidding, ok I have been to Sunway once

And I have a strange feeling that you know them all! :-)

 
 By: sham1 : October 11th, 2019-08:41
I am useless when it comes to food - been Anglicised after having been in the UK for too long. So believe it or not, I only eat once a day!

He! He!

 
 By: sham1 : October 12th, 2019-18:54
You have a good imagination my friend. Have a pleasant Sunday too

Thank you for your feedback!

 
 By: sham1 : October 10th, 2019-22:58
I have just ordered and left a deposit on the first option! It was my first choice 3 years ago when I first saw the Remontoire and it remains my first choice despite the availability of the enamel and guilloche dials.

Get a matching blue governor to go with the blue hands

 
 By: dmv4star : October 11th, 2019-10:50
You rarely see it, but it looks so good. Congrats on the purchase I love this piece. Makes you smile every 8 seconds ...  

Thank you very much for the suggestion!

 
 By: sham1 : October 11th, 2019-19:25
Very nice but I am wondering if it is better to keep the governor the same colour as the dial in pursuit of discreetness. I would still smile every eight seconds!!

Is that the 2nd or 3rd photo?

 
 By: sham1 : October 13th, 2019-11:01
Thanks for your feedback but i have decided to go with the first one!

Congrats Sham! [nt]

 
 By: patrick_y : October 14th, 2019-10:31

Thank you Patrick!

 
 By: sham1 : October 14th, 2019-10:35
I almost had to come over to the USA to source one but fortunately, I just had to pop over to Singapore.

That was easy! [nt]

 
 By: patrick_y : October 14th, 2019-10:39

Yes it was at the end of the day Patrick

 
 By: sham1 : October 14th, 2019-10:53
but it was anything but easy in the months before with me trying to source a steel Remontoire in three different continents via lots of email exchanges and phone calls. In fact, I almost had to 'settle' for a white gold Remontoire with a dark blue Kari di... 

Perfect luck! [nt]

 
 By: patrick_y : October 14th, 2019-10:54

I always believe if things are meant to be, they will be

 
 By: sham1 : October 14th, 2019-10:59
If not, hey, we are blessed that we are spoiled for choice these days in this passion of ours.

I think your preferred dial is the best one.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : October 15th, 2019-05:16
But doesn't it have some texture to it? It's the same as the salmon, right? With or without, it is very elegant.

You are correct Mike!

 
 By: sham1 : October 15th, 2019-05:37
There is some texture to the dial and it is like the salmon except in silver. Thank you for your feedback and as you might have noticed, I had ordered it last Friday so if you had told me you preferred one of the guilloche dials instead I would be swearin... 

That would have been fine.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : October 15th, 2019-12:51
I don’t understand Swahili so I would have told myself you were saying I was smart and funny and cool. The cat’s meow!

Fortunately,

 
 By: sham1 : October 15th, 2019-18:30
you actually are!

You're making me blush.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : October 16th, 2019-05:45
Back atcha. Now you can blush.

Congratulations.

 
 By: JerryW : October 15th, 2019-18:51
Such an awesome creation. You can’t go wrong with any of the dials, just personal preference. The original dial looks really cool especially when the light brings out the sparkle. Special pieces like this are well worth waiting for.

Thanks a lot Jerry!

 
 By: sham1 : October 15th, 2019-19:00
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