Wonderful Overview, Magnus [nt]

Aug 21, 2011,07:56 AM
 

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Opinions on Ochs and Junior?

 
 By: expwmbat : August 15th, 2011-17:38
Hi All, I'm obsessively thinking about my next acquisition (who isn't?), which will likely be my last for a very long time, giving the limited funding options. I have dreams of adding another independent to my stable, which currently consists of a JLC Dua...  

Tough decision Daniel!

 
 By: sidneyc : August 15th, 2011-18:15
As much as I love O&J, you have the MIH already which in my opinion is a bit similar to O&Js. But if it's a style you really like then why not? Personally, I like variety, and the beauty of Independents is that they come in all "shapes and sizes". I think... 

Thanks for the helpful input

 
 By: expwmbat : August 16th, 2011-07:56
You understand my dilemma exactly--I want variety, but there is something seductive and attractive about considering an O&J or another Habring. Still, you are probably right, and I should try to hold out for the PSM or Sarpaneva or Jutzi GF or Ressenc... 

Other Indies or Perhaps a Dressy Grand Seiko?

 
 By: pinoywis : August 15th, 2011-20:13
O&Js are nice watches and could definitely fit into the collection of those into Indies. I agree though with your concern and sidneyc's comment that the O&J is quite similar with the MIH. I get the impression from your modest (but very choice) collection ... 

A good suggestion...

 
 By: expwmbat : August 16th, 2011-07:58
And I really like the GS honesty and quality. But they are a bit mainstream and conservative in design/construction. I just sold off my Chopard LUC Sport 2000 (and miss it a bit), which was a really fine watch with a great bracelet and superb movement fro... 

I think they are really cool!

 
 By: Mostel : August 16th, 2011-09:48
I love how homemade/handmade they are... I love Markus' presentation of them a while back and they have stuck in mind... I guess the jaded collector in me wants to find one pre-owned for the potential that I do not love it... it will be a hard bird to set... 

handled some of the O & J

 
 By: donizetti : August 16th, 2011-11:12
and liked them but they certainly come from the same stable as the MIH, both regarding the industrial finish and the look and feel (and the workhorse movement). If you want an astronomical complication by an independent some of Christian van der Klaauws l... 

True, and I want to like those pieces, but something is missing...

 
 By: expwmbat : August 18th, 2011-17:57
They just don't capture me. The O&J does, but perhaps it produces too much overlap... Sigh. DJK

Could you not upgrade the Habring if desired?

 
 By: playtime : August 16th, 2011-22:22
I know that the watch itself represents a milestone in your life--but drawing inspiration from one of my favorite philosophers David Lewis, your Habring perdures, and is thus the same watch despite any upgrades should you decide upon them....... I like yo... 

How?

 
 By: expwmbat : August 18th, 2011-18:00
It's not one of the modular movements. And even so, I don't know what I could add to my Habring that would improve it--indeed, it has been reduced to a pretty bare minimum. I like the Pita Oceana, but the dial design doesn't capture me quite. And the Gerb... 

I think it is a very interesting brand

 
 By: mac : August 17th, 2011-06:29
I have been following the brand ever since they announced the Tinta series. I find their business approach interesting and appealing, and hope to have one of their watches at some point. I do, however, think the industrail design is too similar to the MIH... 

Another name in the hat

 
 By: davidcast77 : August 17th, 2011-11:32
Currently owning two of the three brands in your collection I find myself drawn in a similar direction for my next purchase. Something independent and interesting, but not outrageously expensive. Fully agree with the interest in OnJ, Sarpaneva, and especi... 

Very interesting! Does he have a web presence?

 
 By: expwmbat : August 17th, 2011-12:57
I would love to have more information. and will commence with a web search. But if you can tell or email me more I would very much appreciate it. Cheers, Daniel

Being exposed to the genius of the creator - Can you stand it?

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : August 17th, 2011-14:40
Hi Daniel my take on addressing your problem is to ask you to consider the aspect of appreciating the degree of involvement of the watches' creator(s) . While generally the directness of this involvement is reciprocal to the size of a company, it is one o...  

Those last two photos

 
 By: Gary G : August 18th, 2011-06:53
...have me salivating! Best, Gary

I can stand it! And I've read all those reports multiple times in the past...

 
 By: expwmbat : August 18th, 2011-18:07
But, the question is how to do so in the best and most thoughtful way possible. As you know, I already have the Habring and MIH--which has given me a window into some wonderful, creative, practical watchmaking ingenuity. But as I have a chance at one more... 

Magnus, I accidentally called you Markus

 
 By: Mostel : August 19th, 2011-18:18
But I was referring to your excellent post about O and S a while back, in which a rough prototype was examined... amazing post.

Wonderful Overview, Magnus [nt]

 
 By: Douglas : August 21st, 2011-07:56
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Perhaps some more visual input?

 
 By: cazalea : August 22nd, 2011-11:19
Would I buy them all again? Yes, I think so. But I might hold out for a larger Ochs & Junior. However, if everyone waits for the future models, that would be a problem. Part of the idea of independents is being a patron of the arts - in this case your wat...  

I'll take them!

 
 By: expwmbat : August 22nd, 2011-13:52
Well, except that I already have the MIH. Terrific photos, thank you. It shows the differences between the cases brilliantly. I think that the O&J case is sufficiently different from the MIH, both in design and finish, and it might convince me to head...