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Mar 03, 2021,20:09 PM
 

congrats! Really excited to see how that one looks. I recall that you've also ordered the new Pascal Coyon (so have I); seems like you're going to have a pretty good couple of years of new indy acquisitions!

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Bexei or Voutilainen

 
 By: Cozmopak : December 28th, 2020-21:05
I’m fairly certain that I’ve narrowed it down between these two for my next large acquisition. Although it won’t happen for many months, maybe a year from now, it’s fun to think about. There is obviously no right answer. I love both of these makers and I’...  

Tough choice, but a great one to have! Agree with your assessments...

 
 By: jleno : December 28th, 2020-21:52
I'm not as familiar with Bexei, but I love that gothic-cathedral look that some of the ones with floral engravings on the dial have. Make sure to avoid having that "where unique solutions are born" slogan written on the movement though. Finishing quality ... 

To me, Kari seems like he's trying too hard....

 
 By: mdg : December 28th, 2020-22:03
..I know that doesn't make sense. Besides, for me, a dress watch (and they are dress watches) should be thinner. If you don't mind me throwing a name into the mix, have you considered Klings? He makes watches that really appeal to me...they are hand-made ... 

Yes!

 
 By: Cozmopak : December 28th, 2020-22:12
I love Klings, but I’m not sure whether he is making watches anymore? JDN is amazing, but way over budget for me.

Yes, Frodsham is also on the list.

 
 By: Cozmopak : January 4th, 2021-17:50
How are you familiar with them? Are you an owner?

No, but see my reply in your new post...

 
 By: mdg : January 4th, 2021-18:27
I had my heart set on one of Rexhep's creations, and even tracked him down for lunch when he was in San Francisco a year and a half ago. But he wouldn't budge on any customization at that time (even though it was simple) so I had to very reluctantly bail ... 

The Guillochet Bexei

 
 By: ant : December 29th, 2020-02:20
belongs to me. I have found Aaron and Eszter a joy to deal with. First, they are genuine lovely people. Communications are quick and clear. Aaron is modest, too modest considering his skills. He is open to all opinions and discussions. When I visited them...  

A absolute masterpiece and dream watch .

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : December 29th, 2020-02:52
Your very lucky to have this gorgeous watch in your collection imho. Excellent choice

Truly breathtaking...wow..

 
 By: myles721 : December 29th, 2020-05:40
Stunning up until now was my highest rating...it is now...BREATHTAKING! 😁

Thank you so much for sharing

 
 By: Cozmopak : December 29th, 2020-06:25
That is a truly stunning piece

Amazing piece!

 
 By: jleno : December 29th, 2020-06:39
And that backside deserves to be considered among the best!

Not certain I am objective enough. I would

 
 By: Ronald Held : December 29th, 2020-10:02
Go for Kari,as fewer watches made a year does not equate to better or more exclusive. I prefer his design. Which one calls out to you more??

Good question.

 
 By: Cozmopak : December 29th, 2020-21:36
They both call out to me! I need to touch these in the metal to determine once and for all. Right now, the Bexei might call out to me slightly more, but I need to feel it on my wrist. My only concern is the height at 14mm.

Can you save for both? Order one...

 
 By: Ronald Held : December 30th, 2020-13:02
Now and buy the other when funds permit? How long would it be to get to try on both watches?

Wow thats a difficult choice imho

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : December 29th, 2020-02:48
Two amazing masterpieces and both so different . If it was my choice (i hope to get one or both too in the near future) i would go for the Bexei first , more unique and absolute stunning . If your budget is healthy again after you purchased it you maybe c... 

Great taste as always (well, at least same taste as me :p) and a difficult choice!

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : December 29th, 2020-05:33
However, for me, it would be the Bexei because of 3 reasons which are 1. The amount of individualization availiable 2. the fact he is a one man show which is really cool 3. the very flamboyant nature of his watches. Having said that, there are a few big c... 

Good question!

 
 By: Cozmopak : December 29th, 2020-06:34
I have some ideas but nothing definitive yet for the Bexei. I really like his art deco style and I think that some type of parapet pattern of different types of metals would look cool on the dial. I agree with you too, I’m leaning toward Bexei.

I think that is a great decision, for both which watch and the styling!

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : December 29th, 2020-07:13
The mixed metals is very baroque, which is something that I love! If it isn't baroque, dont fix it ;P I also think that having those french styled hands with gemstones for both the crown and numerals would be awesome! Like below the crown The crown the Ha...  

Thank you for the opportunity to weigh-in! This is a good question, but as I think, the one who has the best answer to the question is you!

 
 By: Obeezy : December 29th, 2020-11:36
Why? It is you who determines what is most important—resale, value, customization, style, etc. However, we all like to seek counsel from the well-informed lot in this community. To that end, I do like Bescei. It’s different and you will likely not see ano... 

Of course!

 
 By: Cozmopak : December 29th, 2020-19:38
I just find it interesting to canvass the crowd of collectors and get varying opinions.

The question of market stability

 
 By: Cozmopak : December 30th, 2020-15:07
Is an important one and has been brought up before, but in this case I don’t believe a conclusion can be drawn since, to my knowledge, a Bexei has never been sold on the secondary market

Good point but if there is no point if reference, hence there cannot be market stability either 😉

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : December 30th, 2020-15:51
People, such as Ant, who care less about market stability and more about artisanal design and top notch craftsmanship could easily overlook this part as I do with most watches but we have to also address this point since it is relevant for most others 😉 ... 

If you want market stability...

 
 By: chintu : December 31st, 2020-04:16
then you are approaching watch collecting as an investment and that will lead your route to PP or Rolex only. Collecting independents is about listening to your heart and you should be prepared to see values not hold beyond a price point.

Perceived market stability

 
 By: Cozmopak : December 31st, 2020-04:41
Has no impact on my decisions. Collective tastes change over time. What is popular today may not be popular a decade from now. I always follow my heart

Agreed 👍

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : December 31st, 2020-07:18

💯 🤗

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : December 31st, 2020-08:45

Agreed on your points but I never said anything about me wanting market stability and if you look at some of my previous posts you will see some of the types of watches I collect...

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : December 31st, 2020-07:18
What I wanted to say is that we have to address certain points which come into play for many when considering certain pieces from Independents. I do understand and agree that choosing an Independent mostly has to do with patronizing an artisan and believi... 

Great comments Justin

 
 By: GreatPilot@me.com : January 2nd, 2021-11:01
Great comments Justin, considering both sides of an equation, value versus desirability is the correct way to do most anything in life. I understand purists but unless you’re filthy Rich you need to allocate funds accordingly. Have a great New Year Justin... 

Thanks Jim. Totally agree 👍

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : January 2nd, 2021-11:30

Bexei won this round!

 
 By: Cozmopak : March 2nd, 2021-15:05
I placed the order. But Voutilainen is still on my radar.

Congratulations!!!

 
 By: jleno : March 2nd, 2021-15:45
Have you chosen a design yet?

Actively working on it!

 
 By: Cozmopak : March 2nd, 2021-15:47
Involves investigating the feasibility of working with some materials that I’ve never seen before in a watch

Sounds like this could be a very intriguing watch :)

 
 By: jleno : March 2nd, 2021-15:53
Looking forward to seeing how it eventually turns out!

Me too!

 
 By: Cozmopak : March 2nd, 2021-15:57

I will

 
 By: Cozmopak : March 3rd, 2021-12:43
First I need to determine which case to go with. He now offers 38 or 42mm cases.

+1? (nt)

 
 By: Ronald Held : March 4th, 2021-09:44
NT

incredible

 
 By: SiNzz : March 3rd, 2021-20:09
congrats! Really excited to see how that one looks. I recall that you've also ordered the new Pascal Coyon (so have I); seems like you're going to have a pretty good couple of years of new indy acquisitions!

Congratulations on the Coyon!

 
 By: Cozmopak : March 3rd, 2021-20:40
Yes, I am looking forward to that one as well. It will be a productive two years!