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An auction with a difference!

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-10:58
Moritz Grossmann was founded in 2008 and celebrates its 10th anniversary this year. The company has decided to issue 24 piece uniques of various models including some with brand new movements. Twenty four to me seems like a lot for a company the size of M...  

My friend this Atum rose gold enamel dial is absolutely superb !!!

 
 By: Mike H : December 7th, 2018-11:05
I must confess the other options are less of my taste but this first one is truly stunning ! I strongly hope you can manage to get it, it is top class my friend Looking forward to a positive outcome for your bid, Mike

Thanks Mike!

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-11:07
Mine is the top bid so far but I expect more activity on the last day of the auction and I am not sure if I will be able to keep up with the competition. I will try

I understand, we'll keep fingers crossed...

 
 By: Mike H : December 7th, 2018-11:13
Let me know the outcome...

You will be the first Mike!!

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-11:15
I have decided to stay next to my laptop for the entire last day!!

You'd better yes ;-) [nt]

 
 By: Mike H : December 7th, 2018-11:21

Maybe my last purchase for 2018??!!

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-11:29
A very expensive year indeed!!!

I have been out bided!!

 
 By: sham1 : December 9th, 2018-22:35
Will remain patient and calm. I still have tomorrow

Hope you will get it my friend .

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : December 7th, 2018-12:32
It sure is a stunning and classic watch . Great dail too 👌🏻😘

Thank you my friend!

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-18:02
Who knows? I might even bring it along to the SIHH next month!

Fingers crossed my friend 🤞🏻

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : December 7th, 2018-23:37
Looking forward to see you there again . Will DM you soon

Looking forward to it my friend.

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-03:23
If we can't meet at the SIHH, I am sure we will meet somewhere else soon!

Great news!

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-11:39
I have tentatively reserved lunch with you!! I will bring my Lang & Heyne with me and perhaps a Moritz Grossman too!!

Looking forward to see you again my friend , also to see your stunning L&H .

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : December 8th, 2018-11:47
And i do hope you can bring the MG with you as well 🙏🏻🤗

I am targeting two Moritz Grossmann watches

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-11:55
and will be ecstatic to end up with one!! Two days plus left to go. I prefer auctions that do not last for two weeks but only for a few minutes! Way too nerve wrecking

Four years plus my friend

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-18:28
but you are right except with the RWS, I know it is a sure thing so waiting is fine whereas with this auction nothing is certain!!

I know what you mean my friend 😉

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : December 9th, 2018-00:47
I can be also very impatient as well for small things and easily wait for a watch for 1,5 year

We have many similar likes and dislikes my friend!

 
 By: sham1 : December 9th, 2018-01:08
Did you go to Salon QP last month?

Nope no way to escape at this period of the year

 
 By: Mike H : December 9th, 2018-01:22
Difficult to take days off at the end of the year for a sales manager...

And I always thought

 
 By: sham1 : December 9th, 2018-01:27
sales managers would be celebrating inl December after working hard all year round!!

You are right my friend, after Dec 31st when the year is over

 
 By: Mike H : December 9th, 2018-01:44
and if the results are matching the budget objectives as expected, then we shall celebrate believe me. Did you ever see a sportsman starting to enjoy and relax just before the finish line ?

Actually, yes I have Mike!!

 
 By: sham1 : December 9th, 2018-02:01
Usain Bolt at his best before the end of the 100 meters!!!

There are 2 small differences between us...

 
 By: Mike H : December 9th, 2018-02:08
My race lasts one year and not few seconds, And I cannot run as fast as him for sure 🤣 So I have to stay focused till the very end 😉

No one can Mike!

 
 By: sham1 : December 9th, 2018-02:09
But I assumed you were the Usain Bolt of Sales!!!

It happens but not every race

 
 By: Mike H : December 9th, 2018-02:17
There are some better years than others and when times are difficult it is when you must make more efforts

That is the ethos of a good athlete Mike!! :-)

 
 By: sham1 : December 9th, 2018-02:23
Hope you exceed the budget by the year end and reward yourself with another watch!!!

Thanks Nico!

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-11:28
I would have liked it even without the pocket watch which just bumps up the price!! Less than four long days to go!!!

I am just being cheap Nico! :-)

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-18:01
I am sure the side by side historical connection is lovely to look at especially as both dials, hands and case sizes look almost similar!

Thank you!

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-11:31
So far three of you like it which simply means there will be many others who will like this piece and possibly bid for it. Ok, I have the weekend to rob a bank!!!

I just outbid you, Sham. [nt]

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 7th, 2018-12:44

Someone just did Mike!!!

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-18:08
but it was on the Benu Power Reserve and I am actually thrilled that I have been out bided!! More funds to focus on the more important piece And if you are going to outbid me my friend, I can think of few better homes for the watch!!!

You have been ultra consistent there Mike!! :-)

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-11:30
Life in the forum would not be the same without your wit!! Yes, I know, it would be better!!!

Oh, you have hurt me deeply.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 8th, 2018-12:26
I'll not post again.

He! He!

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-18:24
At least it will give me a chance to catch up with your 13,000 plus posts!!!!

Hi Sham, agree with you on the Atum, it's one of the stars. And it's the right size, many of the other references are simply too big. BUT...

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : December 7th, 2018-14:07
...I saw the watch in person and I'm pretty sure the dial has not been well executed. There seems to be some markings on the dial which can be seen with the naked eye once you know they are there, and they are easily seen under a loupe. I'm no expert on e... 

That is too bad.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 7th, 2018-18:09
I don't think there are any tolerances. Mistakes are tossed.

You can have the watch Mike! :-)

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-18:26
Too good to be true I guess or should I buy it then send it to Kari Voutilainen to get the enamelling done correctly since he has a dial factory!!! On the other hand, the watch will come with a guarantee so I will ask Moritz Grossmann on Monday if this co... 

That's what I thought but wasn't certain.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : December 8th, 2018-04:01
I'm hoping I am wrong about this however and that there was some lighting trickery happening or that the mark was on the crystal and not the dial. I did look close, and I did have the MG rep look at it too, we both thought it was on the dial but I don't b... 

I am praying you are wrong Jay

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-11:26
because that watch looks so,so good. But more importantly, I need to confirm with Moritz Grossmann that the international warranty will cover a faulty dial too.

OMG!!!

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-18:12
Thank you so much Jay for highlighting this. This is most disconcerting especially as Moritz Grossmann's dials are normally spot on. I am not sure what went wrong in the quality control here and if the error can be corrected as we all know how difficult i... 

Thank you very much Jay!

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-03:59
I aim to pose the question to Christie's and more importantly Moritz Grossmann before the auction closes. Can you remember the name of the MG representative who noticed the flaw too?

I don't recall his name but he was there last Friday evening Nov 30th (he was the only one manning the MG watches, as they were in a case of their own).

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : December 8th, 2018-04:06
I'm pretty sure he said he was based locally in Germany as opposed to being a US based rep. Shouldn't be hard to figure out whom it was. Again, crossing my fingers that I am mistaken and if so apologies for the fire drill! I did look at the photos posted ... 

Thanks again Jay for all your input

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-11:28
You could be saving me a lot of money here and it is not often that I would buy a watch without actually seeing it but I thought as it is brand new, it should be perfect! Too presumptious!!

Hi Jay!

 
 By: sham1 : December 10th, 2018-02:29
I have spoken to Sandra Behrens, Director of Communication at Moritz Grossmann, who has confirmed that the watch and the dial should be in perfect condition. The watch will be covered with a warranty as it is new. A bit of mind so I now have to try to obt... 

Luck is not on my side Jay

 
 By: sham1 : December 10th, 2018-09:19
I have been out bided but I shall plan something before the auction closes tomorrow!

It wasn't me.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 10th, 2018-12:38
Oh, wait. Sorry. I'm not posting anymore. Because of you. Ignore this post.

Ha! Ha!

 
 By: sham1 : December 10th, 2018-12:43
Can't stay away, can you?!!

This strategy...appears they are following what the success of the Swiss power house 🏡

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 7th, 2018-14:19
Creating value 😬👏🏻, nice move 👍🏻

I am curious though

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-18:21
how many will remain unsold because they have three tourbillons on offer with no bids and they have had to lower the reserves of these to USD40k which is tremendous value.

Oops....this could backfire too 😱 [nt]

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 7th, 2018-18:55

I think not enough people have been made aware of this auction

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-19:01
Yes, Hodinkee made me aware of it and Monochrome Watches had a write up yesterday but I know many ADs who are unaware of this (and when they did find out, they were not overly pleased!). I think the colour combinations on some of the dials on offer are qu... 

I hope Jay is wrong about the dial

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 8th, 2018-05:57
and I hope you can land this watch. But it is telling about this brand that starting bids for their tourbillons are at $40,000. That is way too low-and still no one is bidding. I fear MG is not long for this world. A shame because their movement quality i... 

I share similar sentiments!

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-11:37
I think Christine should quit producing all these colourful dials and stick to good old school traditional and classic dials. The movement is great but the dials and case need greater attention. This is why we are all swooning over this 37mm Atum with the... 

I really like the Rosegold enamel dial

 
 By: Watchlover78 : December 7th, 2018-17:28
Watchlover78

Are you referring to the first watch or the last one?!

 
 By: sham1 : December 7th, 2018-18:23
The last one by the way is not an enamel dial! The first one is great of course but please read Jay's comments who has had the benefit of examining the dial.

The Tefnut 36, me want!!!!!

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : December 8th, 2018-02:59
It was love at first sight for me when I saw that Tefnut 36, it had everything I ever wanted in a watch. Beautiful hand carved dial, jeweled crown, and an amazing movement. I hope that you get that one! It will be super unique and no body on the block wil... 

Thank you Spencer!!

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-03:26
Finally someone who shares my taste in that 36mm Tefnut. It is currently my first choice and hope I have some good news to share on Tuesday. I have been out bided on 3 watches which is superb so that I can focus on the main two that I am keen on. You have... 

Thank you!

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : December 11th, 2018-14:49
I saw that the watch was sold, pls let me know if you were the one that bought and if so, please post lots of pics!!!! It seemed to be bid a bit lower than the high expected value and in my opinion, is a bargain, relatively speaking :p

Thank you Spencer!! :-)

 
 By: sham1 : December 11th, 2018-21:44
Yes I did get it!!!! The price was lower than I expected but please read through a reply from the person I out bid. I was lucky.

That is amazing!!!

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : December 22nd, 2018-04:08
Major congratulations! That is an amazing and beautiful piece, I am super jelly :p Can you please let me know where I can read that reply from the person you outbid? Thank you

Thank you Spencer!! :-)

 
 By: sham1 : December 22nd, 2018-06:05
Please refer to Jiggerly-Cool's replies in the post. Thanks to him, I won the bid!!

Thank you, will do :)

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : December 22nd, 2018-11:51
Have a wonderful Christmas with your new watch and please take some pics!!!

You have a wonderful Christmas too Spencer!

 
 By: sham1 : December 22nd, 2018-19:42
I am delaying the arrival of the watch until the end of January but will definitely post some photos when I receive it. Or should I say 'when I receive them'!!

Idea of the year 2017

 
 By: Nicole_S : December 8th, 2018-14:03
In her opinion, it was the best idea of ​​the year. OK it should be an advent calendar and was offered in 2017 for 1 million. Unfortunately, nobody has bought this calender. Luxury goods should be offered in a suitable way. Nici

Absolutely!!

 
 By: sham1 : December 8th, 2018-18:26
One must know what the market wants and seldom is this rocket science

Result of the Auction!!!

 
 By: sham1 : December 11th, 2018-11:16
After establishing from Christie's that the dial was in perfect condition (it was examined with a loupe) and from Sandra Behrens, the Director of Communications at Moritz Grossmann, that the pocket watch would come with a one year warranty while the wrist... 

Thank you so,so much Mike!

 
 By: sham1 : December 11th, 2018-11:33
Your support, encouragement, words of wisdom and your offer to assist me to get further information on the watch will always be appreciated. My first and probably my last ever piece unique!!!

As you can guess...

 
 By: Mike H : December 11th, 2018-14:50
I am now eagerly waiting for the opportunity to not only see this beauty, touch it, try it but also make a proper photo shooting session of it. OMG I am so impatient... This one will not be watch of the week but watch of the year...

Mike, I can feel your excitement

 
 By: sham1 : December 11th, 2018-21:50
and I am still in shock especially after reading the post below from the purist who I out bided. I was plain lucky and I am grateful for that. I will bring both the pocket watch and the wrist watch with me when we meet next so that you can take all those ... 

If I was still posting I would congratulate you.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 11th, 2018-12:10
But as you know, and because of you, I don't post anymore.

He! He!

 
 By: sham1 : December 11th, 2018-12:21
Thanks Mike!! I will never be in the same league as you are when it comes to watch collecting but today is a small personal victory for me

Again a HUGE Congrats my friend .

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : December 11th, 2018-13:43
This watch is meant for you 🙏🏻🤗. So happy for you .Hope you will get it when possible . And looking forward to see your posts then 😉.

Thank you very much my friend!

 
 By: sham1 : December 11th, 2018-14:11
It is 6.12am in Kuala Lumpur and I am still unable to sleep due to the excitement!!

Poor photos!

 
 By: sham1 : February 13th, 2019-21:05
of a great pair!!! The detailing on the pocket watch is remarkable while the fine hands on the wrist watch is quite astonishing! ...  

Amazing pair my friend . Again huge congrats .

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : February 13th, 2019-23:03
The details on the pocket watch are indeed stunning . I have a soft spot for engraved cases. .👌🏻😘. The wrist watch looks so clean yet so classic too . Looking forward to see more pics soon 🤗

Thank you my friend!

 
 By: sham1 : February 14th, 2019-01:29
I love comparing the Moritz Grossmann against my Lang & Heyne Friedrich III. Not sure which finishing is better The Calibre 102.1 in the Atum 37 Standard issue hand engraved balance cock Just wow! I think that is a three fifth German plate looking at ...  

You are such a diplomat!

 
 By: sham1 : February 14th, 2019-03:55
And this is one of the main reasons why I think you are a top class guy, my friend!!

Congrats again!

 
 By: jleno : February 15th, 2019-10:11
Similair to my Tefnut, I think the enamel dial and well-finished hands on yours again makes for one of the most attractive and balanced dress watch designs I've seen!

I have to humbly agree with you!

 
 By: sham1 : February 15th, 2019-10:31
I took it to the local Moritz Grossmann AD and he just shook his head in amazement saying that it was better than anything in their current collection. I know he was being nice but there was a bit of truth is what he said. I have some expensive Pateks in ... 

Beautiful pair

 
 By: jmpTT : February 17th, 2019-07:44
Wow, congratulations. Think you did quite well! Sorry I missed the end of the auction, some people did very well. Honestly, I love the creativity in the entire lot. I think the challenge bidders would have with some of these pieces was sartorial. I absolu... 

Thank you very much!!

 
 By: sham1 : February 17th, 2019-08:24
Yes I agree, the publicity on the auction was relatively poor and on hindsight, I think Moritz Grossmann would have done much better if it decided to sell the watches directly itself. Most were piece uniques and there are many collectors out there who wou... 

congratulations from the guy you outbid

 
 By: jiggerly-cool : December 11th, 2018-17:41
wanted to send you a pm but seems i can't send any, hence this reply. (i'm a lurker who almost never posts, so greetings to all and sundry.) i wanted that set, too, including (especially?) the pocket watch, and had every intention of giving you a run for ... 

Thank you very much!!!

 
 By: sham1 : December 11th, 2018-22:03
Firstly thank you very much for writing to me. Secondly thank you so much for allowing me to win the bid and own this piece unique! I really mean that. I have to tell you this. The maximum I would have bidded on this piece would have been 20k USD. If you ... 

I don’t know why you could not send a pm to sham...

 
 By: Mike H : December 11th, 2018-22:09
...but whatever the reason that gives us the opportunity to read your above message. Just as you said we are not investors but passionate collectors and when I read your post I can add that your acting at the auction is the one of a true gentleman. Moreov... 

Mike, I have sent a PM to our new friend

 
 By: sham1 : December 11th, 2018-22:55
I now know that me obtaining this watch is pure fate and lots of luck. I know by posting news of the auction on this site, I had risked ending up with nothing but as I had always mentioned, if a watch was meant to be mine, it will be. I also felt that thi... 

thank you for your very gracious welcome, mike h

 
 By: jiggerly-cool : December 13th, 2018-03:49
as a longtime lurker i can see that this is a great place to form like-minded friendships, but i supposei'm the shy & retiring type (wish i had enough to retire to a life of horological collection and admiration, but that's another topic). have to say, i ... 

Hello my friend

 
 By: sham1 : December 13th, 2018-08:53
if you right click on the emblem next to the person's name who has replied a post, you will be given a choice of viewing his other posts or sending a PM.

I was closely following quite some lots of those MGs in this auction.

 
 By: sleepy_templar : December 12th, 2018-01:58
The set you got is actually at very very reasonable price. I regret I didn’t go after this one if I knew the price can be so reachable. So huge congratulations!! Btw, I secured another two

Congratulations for obtaining two lots!!! :-)

 
 By: sham1 : December 12th, 2018-02:49
That is some achievement. I thought the reserve was a bit on the high side compared to some of the other pieces like the backpage and schaffo which ultimately did sell for more. But there is always no harm trying and I had a ceiling anyway before I would ... 

The set of beautiful enamel dials are to die for!

 
 By: sleepy_templar : December 12th, 2018-02:55
Thus I didn’t even try! Anyway again huge congrats! Now, guess who got the Grand Dame? And another one is Santa Claus...to be honest I feel I overpaid a bit for this one, but fine!

I am so pleased that you got the Grand Dame.

 
 By: sham1 : December 12th, 2018-03:09
I would have bidded up to 11k The Santa? Wow, when I first saw it I was asking myself who would buy it as it might only be worn once a year. But hey, you have a watch with an eye catching dial!! Well done!!!

Thanks a lot! You gave me a peace of mind!

 
 By: sleepy_templar : December 12th, 2018-03:37
Hope to see your wrist shots soon!

Unfortunately I have arranged for the watch to arrive

 
 By: sham1 : December 12th, 2018-03:45
only towards the end of January so we have to wait a little while. Will you be getting a leather strap for your Grand Dame? I had already spoken to MG and they were going to send me one. But then, I bought another watch!!

Me even later...I will probably get it till Feb...

 
 By: sleepy_templar : December 12th, 2018-05:52
What a wait... Btw, can you DM me with your contact in MG? And you meant the watch doesn’t come with a strap or you talked about extra strap?

Your Tefnut Grand Dame

 
 By: sham1 : December 12th, 2018-08:26
comes with a satin strap I hope you realised. These satin straps tend to be a little on the short side and probably won't look so good on a man's wrist. Hence, a lovely dark brown leather strap would be more appropriate. My apology of course if this watch... 

Mate, have you paid your MG watch?

 
 By: sleepy_templar : December 26th, 2018-05:38
I was traveling in past few weeks thus couldn’t pay. I mailed Christies’ postsales department and told them I’m going to wire the funds around Dec 25. Today when I’m trying, I found there is nothing in my “ready for checkout” session. I mailed them but th... 

You should call them up when they re open

 
 By: sham1 : December 26th, 2018-12:15
I called Christie's on the 11 December immediately after the auction to ask them when was the last day I could pay for the watch. They replied 9 January 2019 so I told them I would be calling on this day to pay by credit card. They said they would make a ... 

Thanks mate! I will follow up and let you know!

 
 By: sleepy_templar : December 26th, 2018-19:30
Crossing my fingers!!

Please keep us informed!

 
 By: sham1 : December 26th, 2018-20:38
Unnecessary stress I realise but most importantly, I hope it all ends well!

Huge congratulations, Sham

 
 By: ChristianDK : December 27th, 2018-21:21
I’m sorry for being late in realizing you finally won the auction. I so happy for you that it was you who landed it. It’s an absolutely stunning watch (and perfect) They will fit right in with your wonderful collection.

Thank you very much Christian!

 
 By: sham1 : December 27th, 2018-22:22
It was a nail biting experience but well worth it. Probably my first and last ever auction as I tend to focus on new watches and I had not realised that new watches would be auctioned too! As I was telling a fellow purist yesterday, I am almost there with... 

I'm the winner of the Tefnut 36 with the enamel dial in white gold!

 
 By: jleno : December 12th, 2018-05:03
Looking forward to getting it soon! Congrats to everyone else!

Phwoar!!

 
 By: sham1 : December 12th, 2018-08:23
Well done! The watch is a lovely size and terribly elegant. It is so good to see that we have established that at least five of the watches have gone to purists!!!