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I can be interested beyond the scope of affordability...
....because there was a time when the idea of owning an IWC seemed like a crazy dream, and I’ve been lucky enough in my career to be able to indulge my passion further than I ever thought possible, but at a certain point, it ultra expensive end just loses me. I wrote this comment on another forum recently, and it kind of describes how I fee about GF, Richard Mille etc...
Something kind of soulless about them. I get the technical prowess, and I've been lucky enough to handle a couple of them, but they just don't do much for me. I remember a quote from Roger Smith, where he says something like (paraphrasing) 'I've been told I could charge a lot more for my watches, but that moves them into a different world that I don't really understand'...and that's kind of how I feel about GF. When I see them, I just see this ultra expensive 'thing', not a watch. I find I appreciate them more if I just think of them as the kind of thing I could see in a museum.
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The Super High End, Interested or Not?
In general I tend to have little to zero interest in watches that are outside of any realistic chance of ownership for me. Take Grubel Forsey for example, I’ve been in the room with some, I’ve had ample opportunity to strap one on the wrist BUT I’m really...
Intellectually interested, yes, definitely. A dream to own, of course. Now from a realistic point of view, this is a totally different song.
Even though.... If I consider selling an important part of my collection, to fund the few high end watches I am dreaming about, why not? I am struggling to think about the way to get: Jaeger Lecoultre Gyrotourbillon One, a GP Tourbillon with birdges, or C...
Fair enough. You hit on another point which is these watches I refer to can (for some of us) be in range financially but may "cost" the sale of many other pieces.
I tend to have an upper bound on a single piece, so even though the sum value a collection may exceed that single piece it's still not permissible. Admittedly that ceiling has raised over time.
I read your interesting question as whether we are interested in watches that we know we can't afford...and my answer is, generally, yes.
It's by definition only an artistic/intellectual/technical/you-choose-the-term curiosity, but I don't want to limit my interest in the watches I can afford or consider buying. With my career/salary, I'm aware that while I can buy watches in the (preferabl...
You read it right, and I can see it's a resounding YES from you.
While if in the same position I would likely have also taken a look at these pieces from Patek, it would have been in passing. Yes, it good to know if there is some technological advancement or superior finishing or just simply a collection of complicatio...
IMHO
Patek is not in those group. Patek like Rolex are the two "one of a kind" of watch world. Those super expensive is becoming hyper inflated fashion/status brand thus it will have its time. I always fall for ingenuity in movement dan artistic display prefer...
It's less a question of would you buy them and more if the watch was out of reach financially would you even be interested in it? Or, how much interest would you have?
For example take one of the Patek shown by FabR above. Assume this is not feasible financially for you, then are you interested in the watch? Do you want to seek it out, see it perform in the metal? Will you read about it's technical details? For me, the ...
Yes Jay
Provided it has ingenious movement dan artistic display preferably clean, and certain uniqueness
My answer is different
Than others and I don’t intend to offend anyone, if you want something, really want it, you can make it happen. An old business saying: if you can conceive it and believe it you can achieve it. My favorite quote which is on my email signature and business...
Hi Jim, I don't know if that's the case I'm considering.
I don't tend to "want" for material things which are out of reach like that. Perhaps I've got a inbuilt regulator to prevent such urges. But this is the point I'm getting at? Once my internal regulator determines something like a watch is out of reach I s...
yes, I’m this way with cars & watches
Having been around all sorts, high and low, I’m not nearly as interested in exotics as I used to be. I was talking this idea over with my tax man this week. He said most of his (primarily well-to-do) clients wouldn’t change much if they won the lottery. T...
I don't know if this answers your question but
I'm really impressed with the Credor Eichi II in platinum. The aesthetics really speak to me as does the precision of the case, dial and hands. However, the only thing keeping me from this watch is that I'm not 100% sold on Spring Drive as it contains qua...
I think I didn't articulate my question very well, sorry. In the context of the Eichi the basic question was really if your top budget was $10k and the Eichi is $52k then do you spend any time to explore the watch?
Do you reach about it, or go out of your way to handle it in the metal? Do you read about the IC and understand how the technology works? Will you nerd out about the finishing? All for a watch you know you'll never buy. You have in fact answered the quest...
I think it never affordable or not but rather if it is worth/overpriced?
my limit is maybe $10k (USD) for watches. Can ppl get a decent reputable (all these entry level watch just piece of rubbish) watch from big 3 watches (PP, VC or JLC)? Yes, why not! Some may take a few days to save it, some months or even years. To me, maj...
Well my limit is 10k. Hahaha.
Do have a good time looking into those watches. Market force will determine the prices. So one day, who knows, it become accessible to majority so no harm if you do not want to buy now but want to learn about it in greater details.
It's about the aesthetics
rather than affordability. I love to get lost in a complicated movement and appreciate the artistry and engineering that goes into a grand complication but I'm more drawn to iconic dial design and the utility of a timepiece. I would never miss the opportu...
To your question: Abso-frigging-lutely!
For example, I am interested in space exploration even though I do not possess the means to have my own space program.
Exploring a watch outside of my budget is like drinking a whisky with too much ice
The experience is a little watered down but doesn’t stop it from being enjoyable. NickO
Every time
It's not my preference, but if it was brought to me accidently I'd drink it every time that happened - if the only other option was to throw it out. NickO
If I could I would not hesitate!
But I can‘t. Yet I would skip all sport watches and rather accommodate one true piece of horology first.
You’re not alone Jay...
& probably it is the crowded space ! I’m curious on mechanical marvels but equally I also will never cross a price point (IMHO beyond this the driving elements to pick a watch are totally different). Best, Mahesh.,
I used to had a limit at
€1k ,now at 60k and growing. To be serious ,i don t wanna go for supercomplications ,the main reason that I really love the look of PCCs but i hardly use that features ,the only high end complication which tempting is an MR however those are strating arou...
We’re the same.
Passing interest. If there was a gtg and there was something fancy on the table, yeah I’d take a look at it but would probably spend more time with something just a bit more intellectually and financially accessible to the average enthusiast. If there was...
Sure I’m interested
They often are very interesting technically, design-wise and finishing wise. Not everything has to obtainable in order to be appreciated. ...
It's not that it would not be appreciated, more so if it's that far away from reality for me then how interested am I in scratching beyond the surface.
I'll known enough to appreciate what I'm seeing, the GF is a perfect example. But I'm not shoving people out of the way to see it at th Watchtime exhibition, nor am I rushing to the nearest AD because I must see it.
Yes
When I get a chance I look at these marvels with attention. To me they are a tribute to human intelligence and perseverance. I don't need to own them. For me, the experience of handling them and appreciate them remains young long after.
I feel the same as you....
..... except when it is about George Daniels / RW Smith / Dufour. I am not too keen on high end industrial, but when extremely good craftsmen share their trades as these ones did or do, this is a different league in itself! I will never be able to own one...
Not certain if this answer helps. Sure there is an intellectual curiousity about those...
Watches from the design aspects to the finish and looks. I disagree that of you want one,you can find away to afford it. The AMC is over $2000000 and liquidating all assets might not cover a deposit.
What is a realistic opportunity to ever own a special watch?
Maybe today you cant but what if things chance in the near future in a good way ? Thats why i say Yes . I want to try as many watches on the wrist and want to now as much as possible about them . A grail i tried today ...
Yes I would, for general knowledge acquisition
Just read about such watches in my free time. It's not work, because it's our hobby. I wouldn't fly to another country just to see it but if it's in the next town or on the wrist of the guy I am seated next to in a watch event, sure I would try to strike ...
I am like you Jay, i really enjoy reading on the MB&F, Romaine Gauthier and technical marvels alike but i wouldnt make an effort to see them in person or put them on a Grail
List even. Out of budget and i have to much fun studying and seeing the ones i could obtain.
Absolutely....and I also read Playboy....for the articles, of course.
We admire many things out of reach...
The stone cold truth, my friend :)
....well, maybe not the reading the articles part ...
Well, yes, barring those pesky Restraining Orders :)
In all seriousness, I do indeed get excited to see haute hologerie novelties that I could never (or won't) afford. I do like to see under the skirt, so to speak, of these pieces and understand them from a mechanical/technical perspective. That's often dif...
I definitely get interested in watches I can't afford and/or would never want to buy
It's similar to looking at art in a museum. But watches resonate with me more than paintings and sculptures. As a form of art, high horology watches are both incredibly skill and labor intensive to make, as well as much easier to judge objectively through...
You bring up another interesting angle here.
I was curious to see the Patek museum and understand about some of the pieces in there. In fact way more curious in that situation than I am with some of the modern high complication pieces.
I can be interested beyond the scope of affordability...
....because there was a time when the idea of owning an IWC seemed like a crazy dream, and I’ve been lucky enough in my career to be able to indulge my passion further than I ever thought possible, but at a certain point, it ultra expensive end just loses...
