Non-transferable warranty is one issue - and full service for missing lume?

Dec 20, 2013,05:07 AM
 

To me, the non-transferable warranty is another big issue that LW and too many other companies are adopting.  There is really no excuse for this - it is the object that should be under warranty, and not the owner.  The explanation for this has been along the lines of "if we don't know how many people have owned the watch, how can we know it is been handled properly".   Apparently if only one person owns a watch during the warranty period, that means it will be handled with care.  Even if they are jackhammer operator, I guess. 

When buying a watch from another collector or reseller, I always check to see if the warranty is transferable. If it isn't, I make sure that if there is a problem that the named owner on the warranty card will handle warranty issues.  I would do the same for a fellow collector if I were to sell a watch under non-transferable warranty.

Second issue - how is it that L-W decided the watch needed a full service to replace some missing lume from the OUTSIDE of the watch?  Maybe they can only replace the lume from the underside of the dial using magical tools that only their highly trained watchmakers possesssmile

Was there any problem with how the watch was operating?  If they don't have to open the case, they could take care of the problem by painting / inserting the lume or even replacing the bezel.  Without knowing what else was going on, it sounds very strange that they insisted on a full servicing. 

These two things alone would sour me on a brand.  The fingerprints / dust issue was poor outgoing QA/QC, but they did fix it promptly.  They should have included some small token of appreciation.  For example - several years back I had a small problem on a brand new Chopard watch - a Mille Miglia chronograph, not one of their high end products.  They fixed it very quickly (it required opening the case), and sent the watch back with an additional croc strap!  That Christmas season, their service department sent me a small box of (delicious) chocolates.  Getting the watch fixed quickly was the most important thing - but the additional gestures created a lot of good will, and which I shared with many of my "watch-friends".

Finally, not using a new box indicates some strange practices at their repair facility.  For one, It means that they have to store and track incoming cardboard boxes.  Waste of time and effort.  Also, it makes for a poor presentation on return to the customer. It just looks bad and creates a poor impression.



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Linde Werdelin lack of Quality Check?!

 
 By: stijn_b : December 19th, 2013-07:05
This is a post about my experience with the Linde Werdelin customer service and timepiece service. Somehow I felt that I needed to post this as this experience drastically changed my view on the Linde Werdelin brand. Let me start of by saying that I love ...  

Though frustrating, it seems like an acceptable outcome to me

 
 By: vitalsigns : December 19th, 2013-08:30
Mistakes happen, and they solved the issue in a week without any fight. I personally can't fine fault in the outcome, although the dirt and smudges on the inside of the crystal and dial should clearly have never happened. As to the initial lume issue, who... 

What kind of compensation did you expect?

 
 By: Marcus Hanke : December 19th, 2013-08:50
If a work is screwed up, one normally expects the fault to be corrected, and one normally expects an apology for the inconvenience. What at least I do not expect is an additional complimentary gift, or a reduction of the original price for the work done. ... 

I don't let them

 
 By: stijn_b : December 19th, 2013-09:48
I don't let them down because they didn't go further. I let them down because clearly they are not yet drawing straight lines within the company and because I feel the way I've been treated is not acceptable within the high end luxury brands. I don't know... 

People make mistakes

 
 By: vitalsigns : December 19th, 2013-11:00
Seems like you're taking this all very personally. You shouldn't. People make mistakes. They are human. Yes, QC at Linde Werdlin should have caught this. They didn't, but then they VERY promptly corrected the mistake. It's not an affront to you. I am huma... 

Sounds like LW handled it very appropriately...

 
 By: KStults : December 19th, 2013-10:30
Could and should they have noticed the minor details and blemishes the first time? Yes. But I don't see how LW should be faulted here other than them leaving fingerprint/dust on the dial and thus you having to send the watch back a second time. An inconve... 

PoorService

 
 By: Timertom : December 19th, 2013-11:11
I completely agree with Stijn, The lume coming out isn't something that would have bothered me too much. I'd be prepared to accept that as wear. There's however no justifying at all for leaving smudges and any other muck inside a high end watch, then pack... 

Agree ....

 
 By: Marcus Hanke : December 20th, 2013-00:03
LW has to be blamed for the flawed service quality, there is no excuse for leaving fingerprints and dust inside a client's watch in the first place, and not finding these flaws and remove them before shipping back the watch in the second. So far I fully a... 

Yes!

 
 By: Timertom : December 21st, 2013-07:37
I see your point Marcus, You're right. I still do have a lot of sympathy for the owner, having experienced how 'traumatic' it is to find that kind of shabby work on a precious personal belonging. Most good restorers take fine care and work with equal pass... 

Well...

 
 By: stijn_b : December 21st, 2013-08:34
Marcus, I do agree that mistakes happen but I find it hard to accept these kind of mistakes at such a high level of luxury goods. The high quality standard is a thing why we choose to pay top dollar for isn't it? LW being such a small manufacturer I would... 

I know how it feels like

 
 By: Cookies : December 19th, 2013-14:36
Similar thing happened to me when one of my watches dive bezel dropped off. I sent an email to feedback and no reply came back. Then, I sent it to the AD and it took a while before it came back. All was well it appeared until I went diving, and the bezel ... 

Non-transferable warranty is one issue - and full service for missing lume?

 
 By: Zhege : December 20th, 2013-05:07
To me, the non-transferable warranty is another big issue that LW and too many other companies are adopting. There is really no excuse for this - it is the object that should be under warranty, and not the owner. The explanation for this has been along th... 

I don't understand it...

 
 By: andrewluff : December 20th, 2013-10:41
and never have... why would a watch guarantee not be transferrable? The company is guaranteeing the watch and not the owner, if you have the warranty card then it should be enough proof that the warranty is within date of when you purchased it (if stamped... 

Jus thinking

 
 By: MrTime : December 21st, 2013-04:50
Could it be this after sale service is totally outsource. Frankly it's not surprising and I know more and more companies especially the smaller who focus only on design, sales and marketing and outsource the rest to others.,. That's always the diff btw th... 

The full service was my request

 
 By: stijn_b : December 21st, 2013-08:38
I requested a full service since they advise it after 2 years. The previous owner also told me it was in his watchbox for quite a long while so I thought it wasn't bad giving it a complete service. I replied to rishad771 his reply concerning the "compensa... 

Profit Margins Wide on Watches, Narrow on Service

 
 By: Whirling : December 21st, 2013-10:43
We hear so many stories about apparently-poor service from very high-end brands. I suspect that this is because the profit margin on having those skilled watchmakers making new pieces is so much wider than the profit margin on those watchmakers servicing ... 

Mistakes happen and it's part of everyday life

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : December 22nd, 2013-11:49
What makes a person / company stronger is how he/it deals with mistakes and what he/it does from there on. LW made a mistake but rectified it quickly. I'm disappointed to hear they didn't give you a "gift" for the mistake, such as a LW baseball cap or any...