New and unworn with no papers is a joke.

Sep 11, 2021,18:52 PM
 

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I wonder what are you guys think about watches that are for sale...

 
 By: hoseachandra : September 11th, 2021-07:07
In Chrono24, which the seller say it is new, unworn, but it doesn't have box or papers. I am talking about new models, made in 2019 to 2021. I found it very strange that nowadays, while most people know how valuable an expensive watch is, are they so care... 

Personally,

 
 By: sham1 : September 11th, 2021-07:21
I too would refrain from buying a 'new' watch from chrono24. I would buy it from an AD or from the watchmaker himself if possible. And yes the same thought does cross my mind when a new or relatively new watch is being sold without box and papers. Peace o... 

Box is not really important for me anyway. But papers are a must for a new / unworn watch

 
 By: hoseachandra : September 11th, 2021-13:11
I dont want to support thieves. And i feel a new watch is too expensive for not having papers

Agreed 100%

 
 By: sham1 : September 11th, 2021-15:13

I bought twice from C24 , one with full papers and box, one with only box

 
 By: hoseachandra : September 11th, 2021-13:06
But they are neo vintage pieces so i understand the condition. And i used ky conversation with him/them as an "instinct" of how well they can be trusted. Glad everything went smooth

Lucky you, indeed.

 
 By: amanico : September 11th, 2021-17:56

The total package

 
 By: Weems@8 : September 11th, 2021-07:45
While only the watch be worn, i like to unpack the stuff. Watches without box triggers the ones that want all for a bargain. I know box and papers stays in closets for years untouched, albeit that is for me a sign i buy no stoles stuff and it feels i boug... 

Oh yes i have the same feeling. When i unbox my IWC ingenieur 3521...

 
 By: hoseachandra : September 11th, 2021-13:19
Got the cards, original receipt, service papers, and manual book....it was a joy, even with the deteriorated box and dusty papers.

The journey

 
 By: Weems@8 : September 11th, 2021-13:36
is what is so great. Who was the previous owner? Was it a watch of a famous guy? Who service the watch and what was replaced? Conserve what is possible. I throw not much away. Even when a watch lost for a long time. I discovered a Armani box quickly lost ... 

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 By: PalmSprings : September 11th, 2021-07:47
Which model are you looking at, examples?

I always buy a watch as complete as possible.

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : September 11th, 2021-08:06
Its important for me to have a complete package although the box and papers will be stored away i know i have a full set . If i can get a watch i like without a box from a trusted seller i will hunt for a box as long as possible to still get it complete

Thats obviously a no go, as you said. And if it is a watch that still broadly is on sale, i would pay a few extra bucks at the Ad to get me in position for

 
 By: Reuven Malter : September 11th, 2021-08:35
My next watch i want to have an allocation for. So C24 seems to be amazing, but only for older references imo.

Of course. If i can get the watch from AD or from a person i can meet face to face

 
 By: hoseachandra : September 11th, 2021-13:09
I feel safer. But from a someone in the internet, it feels just not right, to get a watch in new condition without papers.

The c24 fee system is one cause of that…

 
 By: shortys home : September 11th, 2021-09:59
… when fees for the seller are 1.5% higher for a „very good“ listed timepiece vs a „unworn“ listed watch. And like with every potential purchase: the personal communication with a seller gives you a lot more insight than any listing. Cheers Henrik ... 

I agree- I would be very suspicious too

 
 By: chikai168 : September 11th, 2021-14:26
I have used C24 on several occasions and touch wood, I have had good experiences. I would not buy a modern watch without box and papers, let alone over the internet. Firstly, I like my watches “complete”. Secondly and most importantly, the possibility tha... 

Yes, it is almost unbelievable

 
 By: hoseachandra : September 12th, 2021-04:57

I have sold several times on Chrono24...

 
 By: jporos : September 12th, 2021-02:15
and despite selling much older watches always provided box and papers to the buyer. I like to buy the same way. Maybe I am being too picky, but I feel that a real watch enthusiast would keep all the original items that are part of the purchase of a watch.... 

In my opinion it is weird

 
 By: Jari from Finland : September 13th, 2021-01:22
If a new watch doesn’t have box and papers. The first thought that would come into my mind is that maybe the watch is stolen. Even if it wouldn’t be a collector in question I think there is no reason that paperwork would have been thrown away. I wouldn’t ...