hoseachandra
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Need advice from you, guys. (Sorry for no paragraph break - something wrong with my blackberry keyboard)
Aug 10, 2020,03:30 AM
Here is the dilemma I'm currently having :
Have put a deposit for new Cartier Santos Dumont Limited in Singapore boutique, at april 2020. Still can not go there to pick the watch up because of this pandemic. With the worsening situation here and very strict border restriction by Singapore government, I am near the point of desperate. I think I will not be able to go to Singapore at least until end of the year.
Now I am offered a LNIB Panerai Luminor 40mm (PAM 48, year 2015) with good deal. The only panerai that I like, perfect size for my small wrist. The watch readily available here in my country.
What to do? I could cancel the cartier and get refund and just grab the Panerai. The cartier cost almost 2x than the Panerai.
Some considerations :
Cartier: limited (maybe more valuable in the future?). Iconic and beautiful. Less versatile with low 30 mtr WR, manual winding with short power reserve 38 hours. Lug width 17 mm seems very small and difficult for aftermarket strap. Already have a Cartier Tank louis.
Panerai : 40 mm is quite rare for panerai, lug width 22mm more common. WR 300 mtr is more worry-free to almost circumstances. Power reserve 48 hours with valjoux 7750 reliable workhorse. Currently no panerai in my collection.
Please help me with your input , my good fellow
Thanks for help. Here are some pictures :
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40 mm is not a Panerai
By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : August 10th, 2020-03:43
Sorry but to each his own 😉 Cartier is better for any aspect. Movement, design, overall quality
For me, and this is purely subjective, it would be the Cartier all day.
By: Jay (Eire) : August 10th, 2020-03:44
That Panerai is not very appealing, it is not (because of the date/cyclops) representative of the classic Panerai look. If you were comparing to a simple Base model Panerai I would be much more enthused. It’s also a comparison of apples and oranges. One c...
Thanks a lot for your feedback, Nico and all.
By: hoseachandra : August 10th, 2020-04:25
The Cartier Singapore do not do overseas shipping. Even if they do, once the watch pass the custom, I will have to pay 28% tax, which is nearly 1/3 of the watch price, its just make no sense. That is why I always fly to Singapore to get watches that are n...
I would press for an extension of the hold
By: cazalea : August 10th, 2020-05:47
Citing the Singaporean lockdown situation. Rules like that can be flexed at the dealers discretion. And/or offer a bit more deposit if you have to. I vote Cartier as well Cazalea
WOW, Sleepy, that is incredible!
By: Brandon Skinner : August 10th, 2020-10:58
I’m definitely curious to hear/see what instant collection you have parked around the world. I think this deserves it’s own post should you choose to divulge such information!
Definitely the Cartier...
By: myles721 : August 10th, 2020-04:46
I respect Panerai, branding ethos etc....but it was never my personal taste.
I’ll go for the Panerai even if 40mm
By: PoyFR : August 10th, 2020-06:10
You already have an elegant Cartier... 40mm is arguable, but if like for many it is the size fits you, it gets you into that style and Panerai history post Pre and Vendome versions. In 1940’s and till 1993 the Panerai watches were 47mm then smaller to 44m...
The Cartier singapore do not do overseas shipping.
By: hoseachandra : August 10th, 2020-07:29
Maybe they don't want to bear the risk of missing or damage. And maybe they know that I will refuse to pay the 28% tax,, which I really reluctant to do so. Much more make sense to buy 2-way air tickets and even stay 1 night at a nice hotel.
Cartier will keep it for you
By: Geo : August 10th, 2020-06:50
I am absolutely sure when you pay 50%, that Cartier will keep it for you. After all this is major problem for many of their clients. I can imagine that it gives you an insecure feeling, that you have to wait a few more months, to finally get the piece. Bu...
Can you complete the
By: Thomas_3 : August 10th, 2020-07:05
transaction by wiring the funds, or by credit card, and having the watch shipped to you?
Don't be influenced by the choice of others
By: PoyFR : August 10th, 2020-08:06
Listen to advices but make your own choice. It is not because the guy next door or others guys on forums have whatever it is that it means it is for you. I prefer you saying I take this one because this is the one I like, wanted, decided to own, wear, etc...
Problem is, I like both of them :) :)
By: hoseachandra : August 10th, 2020-17:47
I will hold on that Cartier, meanwhile i'm in process of getting more discount for the panerai, and thinking for trading it with one of my collections , which get least wrist time. We'll see...thank for your input. I know its the right thing to do...alway...
get the refund
By: wellingtoncromwell : August 10th, 2020-07:38
and buy the stainless steel santos dumont with blue strap at a cartier shop in your country.
I dont get it
By: pongster : August 10th, 2020-08:22
Is the deposit in danger of being forfeited? I think the watch will be there for you whenever you are ready to pick it up. As an aside, if Indonesian customs laws are the same elsewhere, you would still have to declare and pay taxes on your Singapore purc...
I have a similar issue with a (different brand) Japanese boutique
By: pongster : August 11th, 2020-05:53
They will hold the watch for as long as needed. But they need me to fully pay before year end come what may. To lock in the price. Because there will be a price increase next year. Normally, deposit upon order and full pay upon pick up. But if travel stil...
Maybe try this
By: Cookies : August 10th, 2020-08:34
Cartier is under Richmont, which also runs JLC. I had a situation which may be a useful experience for you to handle this situation. When I wanted a JLC from the Sydney boutique, they sourced it from the Singapore boutique and did a transfer. Maybe you'd ...
I feel the agony
By: Cookies : August 11th, 2020-04:46
Hope u get the piece in due time.