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I see a lot of similarities to other watches - which is neither good nor bad.
I have always had a soft spot for Parmigiani and will make sure to see this one in the real world.
These are my observations based on the pictures alone:
- Bracelet and how it joins the case is now similar to the ALS Odysseus and the Zenith Defy Classic, creating a pseudo integrated look
- Fluted bezel reminds me more of the Rolex Datejust than of Parmigiani's own Toric
- Indexes look like the ones on the old IWC Ingenieur 3239
- Dial guillochage is very similar to the VC Overseas generation 2 and so are the chronograph sub registers
- It appears that Parmigiani has designed this piece to cater to the current demand for integrated bracelet sports watches but it still manages to look different. However, the distinct Parmigiani look is less pronounced here.
I am still torn between the two views:
1) All new integrated sports watches are too heavily inspired by Gerald Genta's Royal Oak, Ingenieur and Nautilus and thus show lack of creativity and the following of trends instead of creating them.
OR
2) The integrated bracelet sports watch has now become a category of its own and everybody is welcome to contribute new design variations on the theme (similar to the categories of field, pilot and diving watches).
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Introducing: The Parmigiani Fleurier Tondagraphe GT Annual Calendar and Chronograph Timepiece
Introducing: The Parmigiani Fleurier Tondagraphe GT Annual Calendar and Chronograph Timepiece Parmigiani Fleurier is a top quality Swiss watch producer with in-house manufacture movements that are decorated to the highest quality. Originally a ultra-haute...
I see a lot of similarities to other watches - which is neither good nor bad.
I have always had a soft spot for Parmigiani and will make sure to see this one in the real world. These are my observations based on the pictures alone: - Bracelet and how it joins the case is now similar to the ALS Odysseus and the Zenith Defy Classic, ...
A very objective analysis!
I agree with you on all points. And yes! Many brands are thinking of new ways to create new sports watches that come with integrated bracelets. It's just the "flavor of the past few years" and we definitely see more watches with such specifications. I'm w...
I think this is an attractive chronograph from Parmigiani Fleurier.
Design-wise the thing on the dial I'd change is the unnecessary 'Month' text label for the month indication - which also now necessitates having the seconds track in two concentric half circles. In fact I'd get rid of the 'Annual Calendar' and 'Chronograp...
I agree!
I'd remove the text as well. No need for such text! I don't know why they don't put the text on the movement, especially since it's visible through the case back. I want to see the movement as well, I haven't been able to see it. But I assume it's a colum...
There's a lot of bang for your buck there....
A very nice offering, I need to see the dial finishing in person. Agree about removing excess wording on the dial.
Agree, the photos of the dial aren't the best...
Definitely huge bang for the buck. You said it!
I like both models quite a lot.
I wish the chronograph didn't have the wording "Annual Calendar Chronograph" on the dial. I also would say the power reserve is a little skimpy at 45 hours, but that's a nitpick. Overall, it's a winner. Thank you Patrick. M4
My exact thought! Love the watch overall, don't understand and dislike the extra words at 6.
Gosh I hate to admit it, but that is a deal breaker for me. I would not buy it based upon that detail. Shame, because I might have asked our favorite dealer about it otherwise. I'm sure Parmigiani will have no trouble selling 200 pieces. Really diminishes...
Agreed! I wished they consulted our readers before launching this watch!
I wonder if they had any focus groups for this watch.
Thank you M4!
I agree, in this day, 45 hours is a little low. But then again, long power reserves have their own problems. Once you go past the 48 hour marker, there are a few problems to encounter such as twisting of the barrel springs, placement, and you start seeing...
Power Reserve:
Parmigiani is telling AD's that it's 48 hours and it was apparently thought out. Adding an additional day would require a much larger mainspring or an additional main spring. All of which would have made the case thicker.
Thank you for that update!
I too am under the impression that it's a single barrel. A second barrel is nice, but the added thickness and complexity is usually not worth the tradeoff.
I like them a lot. The black lume is an interesting detail.
The size on the other way bothers me again. Maybe I should get more progressive towards sizing.
Never force change upon yourself when it comes to your personal aesthetic!
Knowing you have excellent taste, I would say you are perfect the way you are! The movement is only 30mm in diameter, theoretically they could get this to fit in a smaller case. I'd say a 40mm case is possible. 42mm with the pushers is very generous. 40mm...
I like it! Parmigiani goes into the right direction! 👍🏻😃
This was not always the case! Often dials/hands were not convincing (as e.g. at Ulysee Nardin as well). Unfortunately to big for me, but everything else is - spot on! (Although an integrated movement would have been even better...) Pricing is excellent - ...
Great to see a new strong offering from Parmigiani!
Completely agree that an annual calendar + chronograph at that price makes this very compelling.
I like accessibly priced pieces. It democratizes haute horlogerie in some ways.
PF is definitely creating a compelling offering.
Full disclosure / I LOOOOVE Parm
but I am ONLY referring to the 100k chrono w the gold movement and... THIS WATCH. I never really noticed or cared about Parmigiani til these two models. It is the gold movement CHRONO dial design (not the movement at first but it sure is spectacular) that...
I saw the Tondagraphe GT Annual Calendar Chronograph in person yesterday and was thoroughly impressed.
Excellent value for the cost.
A very nice introduction, thank you.
From a close or a distance I always looked at Parmigiani Fleurier watches because regardless they are always well made. Time passed, to me what matters first is eyeglasses-less readability Here I see a few downside Fluted bezel for a sport watch can work ...
No disagreements there!
Month indication is indeed a little small. Not sure about the bracelet. It does lume in the dark. Overall, it's a great value at the price; keep in mind a Patek Philippe 5960/1A costs nearly triple. But as you say, there are some imperfections that may pr...
Thank you for the review, Patrick. I'm pleased to say I'll be collecting my order of the all-steel date Tonda GT this week.
Parmigiani Fleurier has carried forward some signature design features in this line. These include the coin-edge bezel from the Toric, elements of the dial from the Aerolithe and Chronor, and the teardrop lugs from across their lines. It's packaged all of...
Big congrats!
Big congrats on the incoming timepiece! I definitely wholeheartedly agree with you regarding the Parmigiani Fluerier ethos. As a future PF owner, please let us know more about the watch and the ownership experience over the years. It's been a well kept se...
Thank you. Here it is.
My photos aren't the best and so the guilloché on the dial do not show through. Nevertheless I hope you get a sense of how it looks. It wears nicely. The 42mm diameter and broad lug-bracelet interface is offset by the watch's slender 11.2mm thickness, so ...
That dial has a lot of blue in the black! Very rich and warm colored dial!
The press photos show a dry matte black dial. But this is so much warmer and shinier!
Some personal thoughts
Here's a photo of the Tonda GT Black on the wrist and in the wild. I put it on especially for this august forum so did not set the date and time. The review above and subsequent posts have been about the Tondagraphe GT Annual Calendar Chronograph, but I w...
So true...
For a watch, all you need is three hands; hour and minute hands to tell the time, the third hand to make sure the watch was running and hadn't stopped. Looking good on your wrist there! Enjoy!
Thanks. One thing worth highlighting is what PF did with the lugs
> These are the same teardrop lugs that Michel Parmigiani introduced in 1996, and are a leitmotif across many of PF's lines to this day. Here they are constructed separately and then affixed to the case. The point of contact between case and lug is both d...
I tried the bracelet version and it felt solid and effortless. The lugs exhibit a slight downward curvature that blends very well into the bracelet.
The lugs are much less pronounced than many of their other references. I was impressed with the supporting role their finer lines played. The cohesiveness of the Tondagraphe GT design results in a physical balance in the metal and on the wrist. I loved th...
I'm interested to hear that you were able to try one on. I was told more than once at the sales point that PF is only delivering the Tonda GT line based on confirmed orders.
The PF representative restated as much when she visited them last week. Apparently they don't want any of the watches from the GT line in store showcases, so I'm curious about your experience.
That looks good! You should wear it daily for a couple weeks and then write a little blurb on it in a separate post!
Pay attention to the changeover to the new month!
Hi patrick, would love to but...
I don’t think I could borrow it I only tried it on, however I’m seriously considering acquisition. Loved it. I found the dial text and arrangement perfect. The pushers are exceptionally well integrated into the lugs. The quality of case, dial and handset ...
