Horological Meandering

One of the crafts associated with dial decoration is the handmade guilloche on rose engines which I appreciate a lot. Not to be confused with stamped or laser engraved guilloche with is only decoration and no art. The work is mostly done on century old ma...  

Here's my latest addition in that realm: Question for you: have you closely considered the highly traditional guilloche that's now coming out of Los Angeles? ...  

RGM does great work and they are a joy to work with

The make really good looking watches!

My (former) watch, with very traditional dial Cazalea ...  

It looks phenomenal.

The guys from LA do a top job ,...but I feel that their watches are too ambitiously priced.

That long seconds hand...

The very similar 5157 with just two hands, and a slimmer case is really nice, and felt like more of a purists choice, but I could not turn down the long seconds hand on this 5177

But I think many ppl don’t understand that even hand-made guilloche is made by a machine - with the master turning the wheel to make the dial. As opposed to being stamped. Shapiro from LA is also doing amazing things. I love the guilloche on my CS. ...  

You need to control speed,pressure and starting/ending simultaneously by hand. Then it also becomes more difficult the finer the pattern is,especially with guilloche patterns getting smaller with every layer. Jochen Benzinger once told me that it needed h... 

Now when talking about finishing parts, yes, I wholeheartedly agree. People don’t understand that just by virtue of holding something in one’s hand does not denote hand finishing !

It’s really an art form. Interaction between man and machine. This is turning quite philosophical. 🧐

You are right.

and not showy guilloche there is, like that pattern a lot

One of my fave photos below that showcases.... Photo below was done using an orange light from the left side and a white light from the right. Enjoy the fascinating 3D effect ...  

One of the beauties of guilloche is the ever changing light play.

Garrick also has some nice guilloche offerings.

One of the most common alternative methods used today besides those mentioned, is CNC, which Comblemine provides to clients who wish to offer a more reasonable price for their finished watches. Although I have seen at least one company make a big deal abo...  

UNTIL I acquired this Breguet. It's the same guilloche pattern used the same way on the dial, but it's just so much finer on the rose-engined-Breguet than on the stamped Journe. ...  

The Breguet guilloche in general is very finely executed.

Nothing wrong with CNC made guilloche for as long as the companies are open about it. You mention Garrick and Chronoswiss : I like their products a lot!

Could you help talk about how to recognize the dial is made by a rose engine or CNC? Or some tips🫡🫡🫡

A & S is such an interesting brand. I am lately strongly interested by their Nebula model ....

this afternoon. Here are a couple of not-so-great iPhone-pics of this cool watch. Only had it a few hours, but all seems good. Perhaps a review after I get to know it better. ...  

Im a big fan of breguet because of their guilloche dial, one question did other brand mentioned in this thread uses gold dial plate before silver coated ?

Most others are using silver or brass.

I’m also a big fan of guilloche. It is mind blowing how many big brands like patek and FPJ just stamp…