I am not convinced you can make a judgement on just one type of finish - the overall design and finish is dependent on what the matchmaker is trying to convey in his or her design. The type

Aug 05, 2019,14:36 PM
 

and quality of frosting vary's as well. Hand peening is a form of 'frosting' and very difficult to create with consistency (see Breguet's Tradition) There are also varying qualities of Cote De Geneve - For example I don't think you could can compare the Cote De Geneve by Philippe Dufour to any other manufacturer. I think the frosted finish is a great way to focus the eye on elements of the watch that the watchmaker wants you to focus on and sometimes Cote De Geneve can draw your attention away from this. 















If its good then its good, whatever finish it is.




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How do you feel about a frosted finish on a watch movement?

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : August 5th, 2019-13:35
Is it high-end? Low-end? Cheap or fancy? Do you prefer cotes de geneve or another finish? What say you? Please let us know! (Pictures courtesy their owners) ...  

It shouldn’t be high end

 
 By: radone : August 5th, 2019-13:40
While cote de geneve or anglage take a lot of time, done by a hand coordinated machine, frosting is purely machinery.

Anglage is a separate issue, but maybe we should have a scale of what finishings take the most time?

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : August 5th, 2019-13:57
Black polish by hand and engraving would be the most? Then internal anglage and next other anglage? Then frosting? Finally, a solid caseback at the bottom!

We've had this discussion

 
 By: Rapwatch : August 5th, 2019-13:53
many times and I remain in the camp frosted=lazy Sorry frosters, when youve seen the difference between good Cotes de Geneve and bad under good lighting...... I can do frosting but not good CDG. R

"Sorry frosters"!😹 [nt]

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : August 5th, 2019-14:42

Didn't Daniels "frost" his movements?

 
 By: John-E-Mac : August 5th, 2019-16:03
Until now, I never thought of ol' George as being lazy. Always open for a mind-blowing paradigm shift. May George "Lazy" Daniels rest in peace. -John

I am not convinced you can make a judgement on just one type of finish - the overall design and finish is dependent on what the matchmaker is trying to convey in his or her design. The type

 
 By: templetowers : August 5th, 2019-14:36
and quality of frosting vary's as well. Hand peening is a form of 'frosting' and very difficult to create with consistency (see Breguet's Tradition) There are also varying qualities of Cote De Geneve - For example I don't think you could can compare the C...  

Not going to take your believes...

 
 By: Pour le Mérite : August 5th, 2019-14:56
...but frosted finish is high likely sandblasted. If it’s good then it’s good, whatever method is used. Time changes and people should accept it!

Personally it doesn’t sing to me...

 
 By: mahesh : August 5th, 2019-15:18
I love the Sun Ray pattern of côté de Geneve a lot ! Best Mahesh., ...  

Isn’t that a beautiful movement?!

 
 By: TheMadDruid : August 6th, 2019-06:23
UJ’s sunray is a delight.

High end (pending the process).

 
 By: John-E-Mac : August 5th, 2019-16:23
Daniels goes into some detail under "Gilding" in his book "Watchmaking". George states, "After cleaning and scratch-brushing, the surface will be a lustrous, matt, lemon-yellow colour which will resist stains and oxidation. The contrast of blue screws, po... 

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 [nt]

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : August 5th, 2019-16:40

Frosting is fine with me -- I always felt it was a superior finish to stripes or perlage

 
 By: cazalea : August 5th, 2019-16:34
A quote and image from SJX: "A frosted finish is essentially gold-plated surface that has been given a finely grained texture. Traditionally done with various harmful chemicals (a technique Roger Smith still employs), it is today accomplished via inexpens...  

Well, looks like George Daniels agreed! [nt]

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : August 5th, 2019-16:40

Yes, but some disagree with him and go their own way

 
 By: cazalea : August 5th, 2019-16:48
What do they know? Who can argue with this guy? Cazalea ...  

Love the Laine

 
 By: Spartacus : August 12th, 2019-00:39
A friend bought one - beautiful dial and movement.

I'm neutral on frosted vs. cotes de geneve, but I usually do not consider it as a factor when judging a movement's finishing

 
 By: jleno : August 5th, 2019-16:44
Here's a video showing how DeBethune applies cotes de geneve As you can see, the process takes only a few seconds and requires no significant handwork in applying. And that's from DeBethune, a brand known for high-end finishing. I think it's better to ins... 

For me, it is definitely frosted

 
 By: sham1 : August 5th, 2019-19:18
I look forward to receiving my RW Smith Series 2 with its frosted movement and I am enjoying my Lang and Heyne Friedrich III with its frosted movement The sublime RW Smith Series 2 - not to everyone's taste perhaps The Friedrich III ...  

Both excellent choices! [nt]

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : August 6th, 2019-05:52

Frosted!

 
 By: designer : August 5th, 2019-22:45
you can do anglage before passing the cote de geneva stripes..... easy if machine is adjusted perfectly... and there is a big difference of these too... better have closer look of the good ones versus factory ones.. Frosted, you need to retouch the bevels... 

Stay frosty!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : August 6th, 2019-05:56
I just wanted to use that expression! Thanks for pointing out that work goes into a frosted finish.