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Guy Ellia (GE) - New Carbon Fibre Jumbo Chrono
Previous post about Guy Ellia's Jumbo Chrono & Time Space: please click here.
Recently one of Guy Ellia's executives, Vincent Fabien, was in Singapore Sincere Haute Horlogerie.
Bringing along with him a prototype of the new Carbon Fibre Jumbo Chrono (limited to 100 pcs).
Here are some pictures
(the specifications should be similar to last models) .....
The beautiful box
'Dial on dial'
Two pictures of the previous model for comparison ...
Back to prototype ...
Spotted the differences?
The screws used are different, not flushed with the bezel (as previously).
The PVD pushers are of lower profile than previous model and flushed with the
crown-guards (not present on previous model).
The forged carbon casing.
Understand the Guy Ellia's carbon fibre casing is machined out
from a solid block of forged carbon.
Unlike Audemar Piguet compressed the case out from a mold.
(To read about the forged carbon fibre process, please click here)
It is costly and time-consuming to mill the case out of a block of forged carbon fibre which is
as hard as diamond. The toolings will need to be change very
frequently as they get blunt fast.
Still wondering the reasons for choosing either of the approaches?
50.00mm diameter, but looked thinner than previous model 11.50 mm.
The screws ...
One pretty unique and novel point, the weight of a diamond is used as
the counter-balance for the chrono-second-hand!
Not sure how many carat though, guessing about 0.25 carat.
The function of the sub-dials are :
- Hour, minute at 12 o'clock
- 12-hour counter at 9 o'clock
- 30-minute counter at 3 o'clock
- the Second hand at 6 o'clock
and the chronograph second hand at the middle.
The chronograph could also be used as a 2nd timezone too.
- Hour, minute at 12 o'clock
- 12-hour counter at 9 o'clock
- 30-minute counter at 3 o'clock
- the Second hand at 6 o'clock
and the chronograph second hand at the middle.
The chronograph could also be used as a 2nd timezone too.
The rotating date-disc with date-figures cut-out is on the outer perimeter.
The date read-out is at the 2'o clock position, using a contrasting
white-background underneath the date-disc.
From the above picture the date is displayed as '23'.
The date read-out is at the 2'o clock position, using a contrasting
white-background underneath the date-disc.
From the above picture the date is displayed as '23'.
The movement is the automatic F. PIGUET PGE 1185 Caliber,
with 45hours power reserve and at 21,600 vph.
with 45hours power reserve and at 21,600 vph.
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Another piece is the Time Space with paved diamond bezel ...
Guy Ellia (GE) - New Carbon Fibre Jumbo Chrono
Previous post about Guy Ellia's Jumbo Chrono & Time Space: please click here. Recently one of Guy Ellia 's executives, Vincent Fabien, was in Singapore Sincere Haute Horlogerie. Bringing along with him a prototype of the new Carbon Fibre Jumbo Chrono (lim...
Very interesting textures.
Thanks for the photos Kong! I haven't seen much forged carbon outside of AP's creations. So will this be the new "ceramic" in watchmaking? ... the box is also cool! Jon
Thanks Jon...as will it be the new 'ceramic' ...
it may be possible. But using different type of resin which has similar texture like the forged carbon. To really make a genuine forged carbon with proper surface finishing and well-defined profiles, I doubt it may not be AT THE MOMENT. The process is too...
Great Photos!
Thank you for the great photos Kong! It's interesting to see the difference between the prototype and the final product. The packaging box of the watch is very impressive.
Though some dislike the boxes ...
watchbox (or even humidor) also a craft. When the box is close, the weld-line/seam is not visible and could not be felt too. Understand a solid block of wood is split into two halves to ensure the seamless / continuous surface. If a defect in one half, th...
As hard as diamond?
Seems like a bit of the old marketing hyperbole. I've worked with carbon fibre, and it is tough, abrasive stuff (much like a certain poster I know), but it can be cut with HSS blades and tooling. It wears the steel away quite easily, but diamond hard it i...
A, thanks for the correction.
Indeed it is logical, if it is as hard then high speed steel could not cut it. I hope I am not the abrasive stuff. Could you shade some light the advantages of molding out a case and machine out a case from a solid block? Kong
Thanks Kong
It looks like the new proto also has markers for the chrono seconds hand which was a glaring omission in the original. Still, it looks very difficult to read without raised or larger 5 second markers. The crown also looks like it may be difficult to wind.
Nice to hear from you. Very sharp eyes indeed!
Hi Damien Though at every 5 second interval, the markers are squarish, perhaps they could 'highight' the markers as you suggested. The winding is still alright, an extra 1 to 1.5mm thicker would do no harm though. Kong
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