What PuristS Said When Asked If They Preferred BaselWorld or SIHH

May 30, 2016,12:05 PM
 

When it comes to fine mechanical wristwatches, everyone looks to Basel and Geneva to see what the genius watchmakers of the world have been busy working on all year and in some cases for the past several years. These watch shows are an authority in technical trends and leaders in dictating market direction. Brilliant ideas, exquisite craftsmanship and long hours of painstaking fine-tuning all culminate in a climactic display of showmanship at SIHH and BaselWorld for the public eye. 

Although these predominant watch shows share the same overall objective, the environment of their delivery differs widely. Depending on your mood, knowledge, experience, tolerance level, your intentions and expectations, you may prefer one over the other. It’s difficult to say which one is better. They’re just different. 

I have always been amazed at the lengths that brands and watchmakers will go to in order to impress their spectators and the devoted watch fans. I was curious as to how true watch fans perceived these massive gatherings and attempts to connect with the public. What do they think of all the hoopla? If there’s one thing I realized, it’s that watch show outlook can be a very personal thing, as you’ll see in the responses below. I asked members of the community and the PuristSPro team which watch show they preferred and why. Perhaps you can relate personally to some of the sentiments expressed. As I’ve always believed, it’s better to experience it all and formulate your own opinion. After all, there’s always more to see.

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What do you like and not like about BaselWorld/SIHH?
Which do you prefer to attend and why?

Amanico
I regret the time when there was only one watch fair, and it was in Basel. 
I regret the divorce between the (basically) Richemont and Swatch groups, the first attending the SIHH, the other being present in Basel. 
Which one do I prefer? 
It depends if I come as a simple visitor, or if I have to work as a moderator. 
As a moderator, I much prefer the SIHH. You can take pictures and prepare reports in good conditions. 
In Basel, this is not possible. Or at least much more difficult. 
I discussed that with some brands which attend the Basel Fair, and we agreed on the fact that it was much better to make an appointment at the Manufacture or during a watch event in Paris. 
Taking pictures through window displays without taking the time to physically discover the novelties is not my cup of tea.

Kari
1. Baselworld is too big, and too crowded.
2. There are no good restaurants and places to relax while surfing around.
3. I like everything about SIHH much more. But still I would go to Baselworld because SIHH is quite limited; mostly Richmonte plus a couple of others while "everybody" else is in Baselworld.

Anonymous
I never went to Basel or SiHH. I imagine that I would prefer Basel as I love Patek but I don’t have a single idea about which one we are more nicely and comfortably hosted etc.

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Anonymous
I've only been to Baselworld once but I've been to SIHH 4 years. 
I like Baselworld because it's open to the public unlike SIHH. But this has its detriments too since it's open to the public - the atmosphere is much less professional and more casual. With SIHH, the atmosphere is very professional and luxurious, of which I prefer. Some may view SIHH as more "snobby" though. 


Anonymous
There is no question about it, I much prefer BaselWorld to the SIHH. IMHO the SIHH is only about money. The watches are a sideshow.  Basel is also about money, but the watches are the main thing.  Basel unites the whole industry and everyone comes, all the watchmakers etc.  At the SIHH it is only about marketing.  Or said differently, just describing the atmosphere, BaselWorld is a public festival while the SIHH is an event for a few invited snobs.

Miranda
I like Baselworld for the chance to see most of the new releases in one setting. I don’t like the frenetic rush plus facilities for catering can be much better. Only Baselworld because of Rolex and Patek. Plus I never get an invite for SIHH anyway. 

Foversta
What do you like about BaselWorld? 

Baselworld has a unique atmosphere due to the impressive gathering of brands, from the watchmaker who sells his watches in the lobby of the Hotel Ramada to the largest companies in the world. It is the best location to meet friends, journalists, collectors and of course people from the industry, brands or providers. I love to have an appointment with a large global brand and five minutes later to meet an independent watchmaker. It creates an energy and a dynamic due to the incredible diversity.

 

Baselworld is a very exhausting fair due to its size. And you don't have the feeling to be in the same event when you are in Hall 1 or in the Palace.

I love Baselworld because it is a unique occasion to meet watchmakers of the AHCI from remote countries.
I love Baselworld because I can meet friends every 10 seconds.
I love Baselworld when I print the maps at home before the fair: I feel like an explorer!
I love Baselworld because  we discover the novelties from Patek and Rolex which are two references of the market.
I love Baselworld because I can meet a lot of brands and watchmakers without an appointment. (well, forget the brands of Hall 1)
I love Baselworld due its diversity and energy.

I could write a lot about this!

 

What do you not like? 

Well, Baselworld has the constraints and troubles of its assets. Baselworld is an anthill! It is a VERY exhausting fair and I usually spend 6 days there and I'm dead at the end. It is very difficult to have a well organized agenda because you need to take into account the booth locations to avoid long distances. And of course spending a night in Basel during the fair is very expensive!

 

If you had a choice between going to BaselWorld or SIHH and you could only go to one, which would you choose and why? 

It is impossible to choose, both are very different and mandatory if you want to follow the industry seriously. The SIHH is perfectly organized, everything is designed to welcome the visitors with comfort and it is easy to work in this atmosphere. The brands are much more homogeneous and the booths are usually very impressive. The Carre des Horlogers is a very positive addition to the Fair and it will bring a new dynamism.

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Baselworld is the opposite. Sometimes, I feel like it is a total mess but what excitement you feel when you're in!

I can't choose between them. Some of my favorite brands (Lange, Cartier, AP) are at the SIHH and I greatly appreciate its organization. Baselworld is a must-visit for any independent watchmaking lover and a great opportunity to see the global players.

Both are put in my agenda every year.

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Very interesting topic, Ping. In the meantime some interesting brands joined the SIHH.

 
 By: amanico : May 28th, 2016-00:12
Girard Perregaux and Ulysse Nardin, two brands which are very dear to my heart. It would be interesting to read the brands thoughts on that topic. Best, Nicolas

I read about that.

 
 By: pingtsai : May 28th, 2016-23:06
That would be a very interesting perspective indeed. Hmm...looks like I will have to do another follow-up on the topic.

Great read...

 
 By: andrewluff : May 28th, 2016-01:45
And can agree with a lot of comments. I do around 4 days at both shows each year for quite a few years... its hard to choose between the 2 of them as they are so different. They compete but also have totally unique atmospheres... Like the difference of go... 

Thank you for your comments Andrew!

 
 By: pingtsai : May 28th, 2016-23:09
I should have gotten your perspective for this article! 4 days each is a lot I know but there is so much to cover I'm sure. I just remember that after a while, it started to get repetitive and tiring going from one to the next and all over again the next ... 

Keeping it fresh... more like keeping me fresh...

 
 By: andrewluff : May 29th, 2016-05:11
Late nights and little sleep is the hardest thing! Actually at both shows, I don't go to see the watches... I go to meet up with friends, watchmakers, journalists and industry people to catch up and find out what is happening! It's all about the p people.... 

Like what Groucho Marx said...

 
 By: MTF : May 28th, 2016-02:55
"I wouldn't join a club that would have me as a member!" - Groucho Marx. Of course, he was referring to discrimication agaist Jews but the same feeling applies. I used to go mainly to SIHH but it was very much a clique and discriminatory place. "Snobby" w... 

Wow...all the back story is fascinating!

 
 By: pingtsai : May 28th, 2016-23:19
Thank you for sharing that Melvyn. I guess it's business, politics and a constantly evolving arena. So where should one go to get the most fulfilling and true "Purist" sense of spirit? A hall? a corner, a watchmaker? a table? Love to read more of your tho... 

Great post!

 
 By: Geo : May 28th, 2016-08:04
I have only been and quite often to the SIHH and find everything over there very professional and relaxing. Especially when you need to work or eat in between appointments. But i can't compare it to Basel World where I hope to go, for the first time, in 2... 

That is awesome Geo!

 
 By: pingtsai : May 28th, 2016-23:21
What a fortunate opportunity to a chance to compare the two. Looking forward to reading about it here.

I like both...

 
 By: KIH : May 29th, 2016-00:46
... if I can have decent hotels for both What I see - BaselWorld is certainly bigger and more brands including AHCI, so that's good. But SIHH gives people certain "elite satisfaction" because it is mostly "invitation only". That may be the difference of t... 

Great points Ken

 
 By: pingtsai : May 29th, 2016-22:53
Yes they are quite a trek from here as well. Thank you Ken!

It's going to be interesting to see how SIHH changes next year with the addition of paid public entrance fees

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : May 30th, 2016-11:11
I'm very curious to see how things will pan out next year at SIHH. Hopefully for the better than for the worse! - AT

SIHH is more ... Purist ...

 
 By: nilomis : May 30th, 2016-13:18
Being there and is a very pleasant show. Unique IMHO. I hear, never being there, that Basel feels like a busy airport and this turns me off. Cheers, Nilo