This is why I love the Purist forum, thoughtful and thought provoking.

Dec 27, 2007,20:59 PM
 

Rip, thanks for getting this one started, what fun!

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Thoughts on the fine watch biz, aka the view from my navel (long--but hey, it's New Years)

 
 By: ripwatch : December 27th, 2007-11:14
Interesting times in the world of mechanical watches. Something about an industry being discovered by folks with seemingly unlimited monetary resources, and that industry in turn reveling in being discovered, seems to have changed this up-until-relatively... 

RIP, i understand exactly what you mean(i think), when i collected

 
 By: G99 : December 27th, 2007-12:04
Omegas there was always someone out there collecting PP's. when i sold the omegas and bought my freak there were people who owned both models plus an RM. its like starting something to find the goal posts have been moved. where i live i'm considered well ... 

Well, Graham >>>

 
 By: amanico : December 27th, 2007-12:23
Things are most difficult than that. You can wear a watch that doesn't cost you your eyes and that will appeal to a lot of people, and that's very fine like that! If you look at the ones who posted some affordable Rolex, like the Date Just, or my GMT, and... 

Nicholas, perhaps i'm just on a bit of a festive 'blue' and

 
 By: G99 : December 27th, 2007-12:35
perhaps i'm too concerned about appreciation from others and not just my own joy of ownership. i've spent my whole life wanting to be appreciated for the things i've achieved, but never seem to have got any. perhaps i'm trying to get that appreciation thr... 

not to get too deep but

 
 By: SteveH : December 27th, 2007-12:38
Keeping up with the Joneses never works and looking for appreciation or validation through material possessions is a losing proposition. THAT is where the Purist part comes in. If you were to come to one of our gatherings, you would see that the man weari... 

Totaly with you, Steve! nt

 
 By: amanico : December 27th, 2007-12:54

LOLOL, Graham >>>

 
 By: amanico : December 27th, 2007-12:53

My couple of new pence worth.....

 
 By: sclamb : December 27th, 2007-14:19
I guess I am one of those that posted some pictures from a GTG where there was obviously a table shot with a few hundred thousand euros worth of watches on the table. As you may have noted, 'one' of those watches was mine and the majority belonged to one ... 

A bit more about that "club"

 
 By: ripwatch : December 27th, 2007-16:32

nice read

 
 By: SteveH : December 27th, 2007-12:32
My own experience has been much more limited. Although I have been interested in watches since I was a child, I only started buying them a few years ago. After doing much research, the first big mechanical watch purchase I made was a Blancpain Flyback Chr... 

I forgot to mention...

 
 By: SteveH : December 27th, 2007-12:35
This whole hobby can be put back into perspective simply by stepping out into the real world and off the forum for a while. In the real world, I almost NEVER see people with watches I would want on their wrists. Even most very wealthy people I know could ... 

right you are, Steve

 
 By: Chromatic Fugue : December 27th, 2007-13:05
With perhaps one exception, NO ONE that I know in the real world cares in the least about watches, nor does anyone know the difference between a Lange and a Movado. (Indeed, the salesmen in the one authorized Lange dealer nearby can't even pronounce the b... 

I don't think less expensive watches get less "cool watch" comments because they're cheap

 
 By: SteveH : December 27th, 2007-13:55
merely because we all tend to see them more often.

hear, hear. I agree.

 
 By: ThomasM : December 28th, 2007-03:59
Jon, don't worry about the comments (or lack thereof) - true PuristS love them all; those that don't, why do you care? ;-)

the point of my post was

 
 By: Chromatic Fugue : December 28th, 2007-06:57
That I actually don't care; I was responding to someone who does. (And now I'll feel patronized if anyone does compliment my wrist scans!)

jeez, now I have to worry about my reply to you...

 
 By: ThomasM : December 28th, 2007-13:30
being construed as patronizing! (that smiley means comments tongue in cheek!  Cheers, TM

no worries!

 
 By: Chromatic Fugue : December 28th, 2007-17:41

Human nature …

 
 By: AndrewD : December 27th, 2007-14:15
Hi Rip, thanks for your thought provoking commentary. It is human nature to always want something out of reach. This is of course a positive attribute for our race, as it allows us to continually strive for improvement. The difficulty occurs when we apply... 

A few thoughts

 
 By: kms : December 27th, 2007-14:37

if i could delete my post i think i would, i let my current personal

 
 By: G99 : December 27th, 2007-14:41
feelings of self worth (or worthlessness) affect my love of the watches i see on this forum which was wrong of me. i unfortunately have issues that should never be aired here. i love all the watches i see regardless of cost or any reason other than their ... 

No offence and keep sharing …

 
 By: AndrewD : December 27th, 2007-19:04
Hi Graham, Don’t feel too bad, as you are amongst friends. The openness and support that this forum allows is one of its strengths. In fact, if you are feeling like this then others will be too, so discussing these things is important and helpful. You hav... 

Keep on talking, man

 
 By: cen@jkt : December 27th, 2007-19:59

Reading this WONDERFUL thread, all I had in mind is HUGGING.

 
 By: MilDiver : December 27th, 2007-22:53
I read the thread, the opinions, and all I can see is individuals from different socioeconomic and culture levels, taking care of each other, trying not to harm feelings and on the contrary to give the welcome hug and huge friendship. This is what is so g... 

There could be one [nt]

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : December 28th, 2007-10:44
No message body

RIP - nice read, very eloquent, and happy to make your acquaintance in the foyer...

 
 By: 219 : December 28th, 2007-03:06
I like it here. I stopped and alighted from the escalator as I realized that I had not appreciated what I had - let alone moving on up! I read (and started to think) a while back about how luxury goods now need not only to be bought but appreciated as wel... 

Thanks, Andrew--nothing wrong with the foyer!

 
 By: ripwatch : December 28th, 2007-06:24
Andrew, I completely agree with you that there are some awfully nice watches to be had "in the foyer"--my most recent acquisition is an Omega Planet Ocean, steel band, black dial, orange bezel, 42mm, and personally I think it's one of the most beautiful w... 

Rip, great to see you in your classic form. Graham, others, I hope you will read

 
 By: ThomasM : December 28th, 2007-04:13
this one very important clarification - Graham, you are indeed right that I instituted the "no prices" policy to deliberately SLOW DOWN the inevitable slide towards "wow! $10,000/$50,000/$100,000/$500,000 watch!!!!" Personally, who CARES how much the watc... 

Hi Thomas ...

 
 By: AndrewD : December 28th, 2007-04:38
... I miss your regular posts on the general forums, but you should be pleased that the PuristS ideals you and others introduced continue to flourish on PuristSPro. The Moderators continue to do a great job also. Keep well. Andrew

Thank you, Thomas...

 
 By: ripwatch : December 28th, 2007-06:34
You knew I couldn't stay a stranger forever, yes? Probably more than anyone here, you've been privy to my personal wrestling match with this fascinating and sometimes aggravating hobby (talk about a dubious privilege!), and so you probably also realized t... 

Great thoughts and a great post!

 
 By: bernard cheong : December 28th, 2007-04:42

another observation

 
 By: Chromatic Fugue : December 28th, 2007-07:23
Any discussion of luxury items runs the risk of sparking some sort of class warfare (Speedie-wearers of the world, unite!). One thing I appreciate about this website is how little of that is to be found here, particularly as compared to the other major wa... 

You have good taste

 
 By: cen@jkt : December 28th, 2007-08:42
Won't go wrong w/ bunny sutra. Use it properly with your wife, and it might bring joys greater than any of your watches. For once your spouse will agree with your taste and feel the benefit of your watch collecting . And the lume is cute also . cen@jkt

Hmm..yes Bunny Sutras are the thing!!!

 
 By: bernard cheong : December 29th, 2007-00:29

Wow Rip, excellent post –

 
 By: elanoftroy : December 29th, 2007-22:08
You’ve presented inner turmoil with great poignancy. I’m only a quarter of the way thru the responses but I wanted to pause and convey to you how much I’m enjoying the read. Warmest regards, Helen

Thank you, Helen

 
 By: ripwatch : December 30th, 2007-06:35
Very kind words from a Belletrist, very kind indeed, and much appreciated. -Rip

Saddened.

 
 By: carl : December 30th, 2007-07:47

Hi Rip...I would like to thank you for your honest post..

 
 By: justpen : December 31st, 2007-08:07
Hi Rip, I would like to thank you for your very honest and sincere post. You have retained my desire to keep logging on. I agree with much, in fact, I do agree with almost all you say, but the reason that I offer my thanks is that last week I was seriousl... 

To Rip and Graham

 
 By: 41northpole : January 3rd, 2008-11:35
Hi folks, first, I agree with Rip that over the last few years there has been an explosion of new brands, and also big increases in retail prices. I think there is now certainly a trend with many brands to see just how much they can get away with in this ... 

Tim,   simon is planning...

 
 By: G99 : January 3rd, 2008-12:03
Tim, simon is planning a london gtg in late feb early march. i'll be going, amanico is coming from paris. might only be a small do, but a good one. ignore half the things i said in that post as i'm a depressive and xmas is always a bad time. i love all th... 

Hi Graham

 
 By: 41northpole : January 4th, 2008-07:21
Don't worry, everyone's a low achiever compared to somebody else, at least in some form or other. I'm a wage slave myself, with a long history in the telecomms and data areas (history, rather than career; they happen to other people!). I also don't partic... 

Tim,   i'm in mid...

 
 By: G99 : January 4th, 2008-07:33
Tim, i'm in mid wales near aberystwyth, equally remote. i do hope you'll try to come the London for the gtg. simons researching cheaper hotels for us who have to travel a distance and it will be a weekend i'm sure. i think it'll be worth the effort, the o... 

Which watch

 
 By: 41northpole : January 7th, 2008-02:55