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Thank you for such an insightful post,
Jul 17, 2019,02:44 AM
Its easy to take for granted the features on the watch. Eg "why can't I just have a 60m subdial counter?". It makes sense when you start putting yourself in the watchmaker's shoes, and start imagining the designs for yourself - which in this case, the thought process is brilliantly illustrated by Habring.
Indeed, most horizontal clutch chronographs we see have semi-instantaneous minute counters, with a ~30m recorder for the limitations mentioned. This is the simplest way to do it, as all it needs is a jumper and finger.
Occasionally we do get instantaneous jumping counters, as exemplified most famously by the Datograph and 5170. This adds some complexity with a ratchet arm and a more precise snail cam to facilitate the instant jump.
Then we get the continuous recording minutes counter such as the Doppel 3.1, VC Harmony Chrono and Omega 9300. This as per the illustrations above, requires a secondary clutch which also adds complexity.
As a general conclusion, the semi instantaneous counter as described is the simplest design relative to the other two, hence its ubiquity.
Regards,
skyeriding
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Thank you for such an insightful post,
By: skyeriding : July 17th, 2019-02:44
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By: skyeriding : July 19th, 2019-08:35
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By: NT931 : July 19th, 2019-08:48
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