It's a commercial

May 21, 2024,14:35 PM
 

Nothing more, nothing less.
The same when a store, auction house or else aims to promote their newly discovered hidden gem.
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What is NEO-vintage?

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-06:05
Friends, What is NEO-vintage? Is it the same as “vintage” … No. This is an excellent article on why there is growing interest in this segment … www.acollectedman.com

We are already ahead of the curve :-) …

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : May 21st, 2024-07:14
At WristScan we introduced a special category for Neo Vintage and Classic watches. My opinion is that this category of collecting will continue to gain momentum and the definition of the era will continue to evolve.

Oh this is excellent 👍🏻

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-14:01
Neo vintage were the glory years for the swiss watch industry IMHO. Those that remained from the quartz crisis and those that started. They were brave and they used modern design tools and documented it. And yet, the artisanal aspects. They also generally... 

+1

 
 By: xto : May 21st, 2024-21:17

Neo what?

 
 By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : May 21st, 2024-09:26
Spider dial, tropical dial, etc etc it's just M A R K E T I N G These are just vintage watches in good conditions, sometimes too good for their age (because they've been serviced but that's usually omitted). Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxxxxxxxxt

😄 there some distinct differences

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-13:57
Between vintage and neo vintage. Read the article? 😉

It's a commercial

 
 By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : May 21st, 2024-14:35
Nothing more, nothing less. The same when a store, auction house or else aims to promote their newly discovered hidden gem. I

I don’t quite understand

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-16:55
what you mean … What is a “commercial”? 🤔

It doesn't matter, enjoy the article.

 
 By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : May 21st, 2024-17:25

🤝

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-18:01

It depends on who is speaking. Guys like us ( in their 40's, 50's or 60's ) will say that Neo Vintage is around 1980. The youngers will say that it is around 1990 / very early 2000.

 
 By: amanico : May 21st, 2024-09:31
I like to say that Neo Vintage is a mix of modern ( sapphire ) and old ( tritium ). Typical example? The Rolex Transitional ( 16570 / 16550 / 16760 / 16800 / 16660 / 168000 are in this vein.

I swear to g-d as I was reading this comment I though you were

 
 By: gary_g : May 21st, 2024-10:51
Going to say that guys 40-60 are neo vintage and everyone else is… well you know.

LOL! Relics? :))))

 
 By: amanico : May 21st, 2024-11:31

:)))

 
 By: amanico : May 21st, 2024-12:30

😄 relics

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-14:15
We put sundials and water clocks in that category ok? >: )

Sure! ;)

 
 By: amanico : May 21st, 2024-16:08

some of us relics like neo vintage watches ;-)

 
 By: xto : May 21st, 2024-21:20
we don't love relic watches so much (no waistcoat in which to properly stow a pocket watch) and we do like the designs and case sizes of the post quartz crisis era. oh, and the low numbers makes them a bit special too.

Well said. 💯

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 22nd, 2024-07:12
It’s a unique time for the Swiss watch industry. Unlike today when many brands have are mass producing watches and raising MSRPs while claiming exclusivity.

Car makers are doing the same.

 
 By: gary_g : May 22nd, 2024-17:39
High end clothing is the same. Lots of parallels in other industries exist.

Could you elaborate

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 23rd, 2024-02:23
On what you mean by “doing the same.”? Do you mean heritage or re-issues? Thanks.

Ah yes. Agree

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 23rd, 2024-03:42
For cars, perhaps they can claim “better”transmissions and such. But for watches, we see more of the same at much higher MSRPs. ADs playing their games where some feel the need to thank their sales associates for giving them the “opportunity” to buy the w... 

I’m sure. ☀️Pre quartz would be vintage

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 23rd, 2024-02:21
Pieces. 1960s and earlier A whole different category with specific challenges. For me, 1990s …: neo vintage. ☺️

I agree but ..

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-14:05
That is part of the problem. Too many interpretations of what is neo vintage. I’m 54. And independent of my age, the period should not be referenced relative to MY age 😄 IMHO I agree that it was a transitional period. One foot in the past and one foot in ... 

Here’s the way I look at it.

 
 By: gary_g : May 21st, 2024-15:22
Anything before my birth year is vintage. Anything after until I could actually afford anything is neo vintage. Everything else is new. This works for me. But on a serious note I do agree it’s nice to have some definitions. As long as they aren’t fixed in... 

😄 why not fixed in?

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-16:59
If I said the renaissance period … you would know what I mean. So neo-vintage is a reference to a certain period or slice of time. Not relative to the current date and time. Anyway …. Watches from the neo vintage has some lovely pieces. Let’s hope people ... 

Hahaha! ;)

 
 By: amanico : May 21st, 2024-16:27

I know right? ☺️

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-17:06

It would have been called a

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-17:06
Current production watch in 1990. In 2024, it could not be called so. This is independent of one’s age. Anyway, I hope folks can tell the difference between the term vintage and neo-vintage because they are quite different in so many ways. If the definiti... 

For context if you compare these definitions to other things pls collect it shows how young this hobby is.

 
 By: gary_g : May 21st, 2024-10:53
For example if you look at art, everything we discuss is modern. If you look at wine, anything over 20 years old is usually considered aged. So I’m not sure if there’s a definition everyone will accept.

Fair point.

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-14:09
But some definition is good to have, yes? They can call it the “fried chicken” era for all we care 😄 I think the main problem is that many collectors are cautious about vintage. We know why. And that is true. So when neo-vintage is put into the same categ... 

For me it was a time when watches were better finished

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : May 21st, 2024-12:40
When I look at Roger dubuis and parmigiani from 1990- early 2000 these watches looks better than what they produce today And I’m not talking about the design where Duibuis went from great it a disaster. The movement in their Chronograph “homage” is lucht ... 

Well said.

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 21st, 2024-14:14
I would add Daniel Roth as well. The DR from the 90s is sooo different from the ones from the 2000’s and beyond. When compared to collecting 🖼️, it makes a lot of sense to collect neo vintage. Why get a “reprint” when you can get the original at the same ... 

Roger Dubuis retro hands (anything retro) couldn't keep going very long

 
 By: cazalea : May 21st, 2024-19:13
My question / criteria is Can you get parts? If not, the watch may as well be 100 years old aka Vintage and it ends up in a case like this. I don't thihnk you really KNOW a watch until you have taken it apart (or watched someone else) and it's been put ba...  

Parts

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 22nd, 2024-05:33
Thanks for your detailed response. I can’t speak for RD or DR for parts but no issues for GP for me. I’m referring to GP Swizerland. And there are a few 3rd party resellers wotj original GP parts and hands etc like this chap Joseph Gisbert. So RD and DR …... 

Happened to pop up on my feed … Franck Muller

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 22nd, 2024-11:39
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