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Box and papers
I take it to mean it's at the minimum partially complete. Buyers should know what they are buying and get a check list and go through with seller.
Ideally, box should mean all the different layers of packaging complete. Exterior paper box, interior wooden box etc. But you should at the minimum expect the wooden box or equivalent or a replacement box from the brand.
Papers mean all the instruction manuals (if any), warranty card/booklet and timing cert (if any). At the minimum it should have the warranty card/booklet.
Box and papers complete combined gives the impression everything is there, and that includes loupe, gloves, automatic winder(if any) etc
Fellow Travellers! Would the more experience among us please weigh-in on this question:
Reading an advertisement for a pre-owned watch, what would you expect the phrase "with box and papers" to include? Particularly, "papers." Very curious about the various possible interpretations of this oft-used phrase. Many thanks in advance for your res...
Hi Fred, I never bought second hand, but I always took the term "papers" as to mean "every single document that originally came with a watch"...
I even still have all the useless booklets and tags that I initially got from my ADs, just in case I'll decide to sell a given watch later on (which has only happened twice to date). Another way they probably define what you have in mind is "full set," th...
To me, "papers" means warranty card, user guide booklet and/or receipts from its original sale
There are many other things to look for though, as stated before, such as the "hang tag", the COSC certificate, servicing receipts, associated accessories like brochures or magazine articles, etc. It's worth noting that I have on several occasions gotten ...
For me the most important, are the papers that are irreplaceable
For instance if you loose the “Certificate of Origin” for your Patek Philippe, PP will not Re-issue or replace this document. You can buy an extract from the archive, which tells a bit about the watch, but it is clearly not the same thing. Other brands ha...
Everything the watch came with, and any items subsequent to the original sale such as service papers.
A couple of caveats though: I wouldn’t necessarily expect the original receipt (some people don’t hold onto those). I would also caution against some comparisons, as often little things are included (brochures and the like, or for many Richemont brands va...
Absolutely!
Here is a full set, But I would have bought this watch even without box or papers! ...
Yes, Nico, I understand. Of course the piece, itself, is what we are ultimately after. And to be fair, "full set" was not mentioned. Yet, "with box and papers" sets up
certain expectations in a relatively inexperienced collector's mind (the word "papers" hardly being the same as "booklets"). Nonetheless… the onus is on the buyer. Caveat emptor!
Box and papers
I take it to mean it's at the minimum partially complete. Buyers should know what they are buying and get a check list and go through with seller. Ideally, box should mean all the different layers of packaging complete. Exterior paper box, interior wooden...
