Awful, just awful. [nt]

Nov 11, 2013,20:03 PM
 

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You just gotta love these auction houses

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : November 9th, 2013-07:33
Tomorrow in Geneva, the Antiquorum auction " It appears that the dial has had some form of oxidation that has caused the luminous material to fall off, leaving a very interesting ghost out effect in sharp contrast with the white writing on the dial" Are t...  

this is usual madness...

 
 By: dsgalaxy1 : November 9th, 2013-08:03
With the vintage Rolex :) How much?

Herm Bruno....any difference from the usual behaviour?

 
 By: moc : November 9th, 2013-09:34
A bit exaggerated but not far from other"exotic" turn outs.... Won't be the first time I scratch my head .... If they advertised iit,it s because they ve been supported by years of irrational behaviours from collectors.... Some people loves it.....crazy u... 

You can't believe the Hype...

 
 By: Bill : November 9th, 2013-09:45
The auction house and some hype style sellers always like to use exotic words sell what can easily be called a damaged dial. Tropical - Star Dust - Spider dial - and that is just a few for damaged dials. I will take a perfect gilt dial any day over a hype... 

A very creative take on the situation!

 
 By: jmpTT : November 9th, 2013-09:51
The marketplace will judge the merits of this particular aging effect, but there's no telling whether rational thinking will prevail. Of course it is more fun to imagine a world where this watch turns around and sets an auction record for its model type..... 

Clever wording

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : November 9th, 2013-10:31
Auctions houses are very good at that. And there will be some people who will be seduced by it. Thank you for pointing this out. I noticed this lot already but didn't give it much thought as it was not appealing to me. I think they are maybe also referrin... 

Missing index or missing lume plots

 
 By: Bill : November 9th, 2013-11:24
Not exotic or prototype just more hype. If you want the lume plots or the index markers removed from you sub not a problem they can be scrapped off = damaged dial not rare prototype. I must admit they look pretty cool but there are several example of thos... 

Point taken

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : November 9th, 2013-11:25
Bill you raise a good point. And helped me think about those watches in a different way. Thank you. Have a splendid weekend! Best Edmond

That's hilarious and SOOOO true....

 
 By: daytonaman799 : November 9th, 2013-14:57
Vintage double reds and Newman bi colors are one thing but I think "tropical" and "interesting" is a joke. They are faded worn out dials!

Vintage pieces, in general...

 
 By: doobooloo : November 9th, 2013-21:00
If I completely disregard the pricing of some of these vintage pieces, I do feel there is cosmetic merit to "degradations" such as this. I think, some of the so-called "tropical" dials are indeed quite beautiful. Yes, the "ghost out" phrasing is questiona... 

I like the clover analogy. nt

 
 By: AndrewD : November 10th, 2013-14:43

sold for 10.150 euro, a 1680 in good condition is yours for 4500 - 5000 euro

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : November 10th, 2013-12:54
So price X2 because it has a rotten dial...... I don't get it :( How long will it take before Bamford or a similar company makes a sub with a 100% black dial and only white writing ? LOL

Well the very name

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : November 10th, 2013-13:40
"black-out" tells it all :) Cheers D

While I can't condone

 
 By: Ubik : November 11th, 2013-05:41
the hucksterism of the description - it rates along with one of my favourites descriptions you see -- "original refiinished dial". To my mind I think there are potentially two seperate issues here. The first is the description - which I can't really add a... 

What a joke- emporers new clothes!

 
 By: vernon : November 11th, 2013-08:05
I can't even understand 'spider dials' where the lacquer has crazed. I agree with everything thats been said here. What next!! Vernon.

Awful, just awful. [nt]

 
 By: KStults : November 11th, 2013-20:03