patrick_y[PuristSPro Moderator]
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Yes! Market demand, margins overall, etc. is all interesting stuff!
Grey market dealers typically take relatively little risk. They have very small store fronts so their overhead costs aren't terribly high. They only buy things with the intention of holding onto the product for a couple months at most. You can be a successful grey market dealer starting with $100K in your pocket. Retail partners typically hold onto a 1.3 years worth of inventory (although with demand so high now, they don't have to hold onto much inventory at all nowadays). Thus, capital and opportunity cost is a bigger deal for a retailer, plus the added overhead expenses.
At the end of the day. Everybody has to have some margin. The person who makes the most can change. Sometime the grey market guy makes the most money. Sometimes it's the retailer. Sometimes it's the manufacturer. Some people are really critical that manufacturers are starting stores and trying to capture the entire margin, I find this criticism unnecessary, as there are HUGE COSTS to starting stores and these stores cost a fortune to run. They're also a tremendous amount of risk in bad economic times as these stores are almost always unprofitable in bad times and are only sometimes profitable in good economic times. And corporate owned stores are often in the most expensive rental areas and historically aren't always big money makers since the rents are high, sales aren't necessarily high, but it helps market perception of the brand. They also spend a fortune to decorate these corporate owned stores - a simple Rolex store in a mall using landlord approved contractors and vendors took over $3M to build the interior (the mall provided the space empty). Those interior store fixtures are typically depreciated in as little as 8 years. So $400,000 in costs per year just on the beautiful interior! It's not easy sometimes...
I always love....
By: AuHavrePro : June 28th, 2023-04:56
reading his thoughts and obviously, seeing his timepieces. I don't consider myself a potential customer of his, but I deeply respect and admire him and what he has done in this business! Thanks for sharing the interview here, cheers, Filip
Respect!
By: Esharp : June 28th, 2023-05:41
What a refreshing approach - so different from what we’ve seen from the groups (my friends might notice I have been somewhat critical on this point). Of course they are constituted differently and therefore have different motivations. While FPJ’s watches ...
Unfortunately…
By: Esharp : June 28th, 2023-08:16
Just about everything - I’d say a solid 99% - of what I read these days in the online horological press is basically some sort of a puff piece. They’re all feeding at the trough and most of what I see has got to be straight from the PR machine. (Notable e...
Thank you Patrick!
By: Esharp : June 29th, 2023-00:29
See, this is the kind of conversation you get here but not elsewhere. And that’s a good point you make about auction prices and an elevated market generally. They’re a double-edge sword, I suppose. Yes, they leave money on the table which is captured by g...
Sad!
By: Motty : June 28th, 2023-13:29
You have built a great brand, great watches, but no one can buy it. I respect FPJ for his quality, but not even trying to become bigger to have more production to make a real impact? For what because he’s comfortable in his damn office (as he stated)?? Th...
Patience
By: Stirling Newall : June 29th, 2023-14:07
Thank you for posting. Personally after experiencing a variety of successful brands pursue growth through volume only to then destroy the quality and original ethos of the brand I applaud this self-restraint. Will I wait 10 years - I’m not sure I will liv...