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Tourbillon - right a wrong

Tourbillon - right a wrong

Regarding a tourbillon. You have probably encountered this, you meet someone who tells you "on a wristwatch, the tourbillion has no function other than to show the watchmaker's skill by making something less complicated more complicated. Back in the time when Abraham Louis Breguet patented the Tourbillon, the tourbillon only solved problems related to having a pocket watch lying in a west pocket, it improved the accuracy of the watch.”

It is wrong to say that the tourbillon has no role in improving the accuracy of a wristwatch.

In 2009, a points-based timing competition was re-introduced, the Concours International de Chronométrie. Invited was watch brands, movement manufacturers, schools and private individuals to enter a, designed to test the rate and reliability of their watches. The Concours International de Chronométrie ran from 2009 to 2015.

The first 2 years, the competition was won by a tourbillion watch. In the 6 years the competition ran, on a top 6 list of the most accurate watches 4 of them were tourbillons.

True is, that a tourbillon made and set by a master watchmaker improve accuracy.

My own F.P. Tn serviced and timed by the highly skilled watchmaker at F.P Journe Paris is not only one of the most beautiful watches in my collection, but also one of the most accurate watches.

Input taken from the article "When Accuracy Mattered - Part III: The Triumph of Brands Over Watchmaking"

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Robert10 - watchmaker apprentice

Interesting. If my memory serves me well, a simple ETA, very well adjusted and tuned was close to the winner ( JLC Master Tourbillon ), though.

By: amanico : November 21st, 2021-11:20

it was equipped with silicone hairspring

By: robert10 : November 21st, 2021-11:40

As I understand it, for the 2009 competition Swatch submitted a watch with an ETA caliber 2824 with silicone hairspring. the watch achieved a 4 place. 2009 results: 1. 909p / 1000p Jaeger Le Coultre -conventional tourbillon 2. 908p / 1000p Jaeger Le Coult...

I remembered 1st and 2d place. ;) I thought ETA was 3rd. Thanks for the precision.

By: amanico : November 21st, 2021-15:17

My understanding is that Tourbillions improved the accuracy of timepieces significantly…back in the pocket watch era (Bc of the constant position the watch).

By: Lankysudanese : November 21st, 2021-11:29

They are gorgeous to behold, but a finely adjusted timepiece that is regulated in 6 positions should be able to outperform a single axis Tourbillion. That being said, I wouldn’t kick a Ferdinand Berthoud (with Tourbillion and constant force mechanism) out...

take a af look at results of the the competition 😊

By: robert10 : November 21st, 2021-11:44

I’m a huge chronometry-fanatic.

By: Lankysudanese : November 21st, 2021-11:57

Can you please share the link? (And the extra photos of your beautiful Journe tourbillion 😁)

a surprise: tourbillon watches won hands down.

By: robert10 : November 21st, 2021-12:45

TOURBILLON SOUVERAIN

By: robert10 : November 21st, 2021-12:50

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Thanks for obliging 😍😍

By: Lankysudanese : November 21st, 2021-12:51

Rolex SS SkyD Blue is +7 seconds a month during 24/7 wear.

By: enjoythemusic : November 21st, 2021-12:53

Heck, i can even get the low-end Panerai 1118 TRON to be +/-1 a month... if i lay it down at night in the correct positions to 'regulate' it. How about two working in resonance as a fun work-around instead if a tourbillion. And if one-axis tourbillion is ...

I suspect some facts are missing here...

By: BigFatPauli : November 21st, 2021-15:43

I believe, and I could be wrong, but I believe that the testing Concours International de Chronométrie did to measure accuracy was done having the watches in a stationary positions. This makes sense, as if the watches were worn by people to test accuracy,...

F.P. Journe himself has said he makes a tourbillon “because they look good, and done well are a testament to the skill of the watchmaker”.

By: Jay (Eire) : November 22nd, 2021-01:03

He has also said putting a tourbillon in a wristwatch makes the timekeeping worse. For me, this was the first time I’d heard a watchmaker (or brand) make a statement like this. And honestly, it made me like the guy more.

F.P Journe, one of the greatest watchmakers.

By: robert10 : November 22nd, 2021-11:31

I have nothing but a deep admiration for F.P Journe. I know he's considered one of the greatest watchmakers. Horologically, his watches are outstanding. It easily explains the large number of awards and honors he has received. My F.P Journe watches are th...

Robert, to be clear I was not trying to detract from your watch, or any tourbillon. Just stating the facts as FP stated them.

By: Jay (Eire) : November 23rd, 2021-01:47

And like you, my Journes are the jewels of my collection too. I look forward to seeing more of your tourbillon and others. We really have a great forum here, and a super Journe sub-forum thanks to our moderator Christian and all the participants.

Alan Downing; "tourbillon watches won hands down."

By: robert10 : November 23rd, 2021-20:50

Hi Jay I did not feel that you had anything against my FP TN or tourbillon in general, but that you shared my enthusiasm for F.P Journe and his horological craftmanship. I thought you were quoting him in that regard. One can only admire the man and his wo...