The quintessential Journe — which one ?

Oct 06, 2019,03:45 AM
 

Hi guys. New on the FPJ forum...been toying with the idea of adding one to the stable. Want to get all of your input. Let’s just say you can only have one Journe. Or, if, you had to choose the one Journe that best represents the brand, and all within the limits of your finances, your wife’s nagging etc, which would it be?

Please share your photos smile thanks in advance !!

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The answer is easy: The Resonance, the Tourbillion, and the Optimum.

 
 By: Spangles - Mr. Tabby : October 6th, 2019-04:01
And the Chronometre Souverain. See? Easy!

In that particular order ?

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-04:28
Lol...

Lately most of the quintessential Journes became out of reach for me.

 
 By: Pour le Mérite : October 6th, 2019-04:06
The ones that represent the brand at it's best are: Resonance, Centigraphe and the Chronometre Bleu. The latter is currently only to obtain from secondary market as the application list is closed.

Thanks for your perspective

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-04:36
In my humble opinion I wouldn’t chase the CB.

Thanks Bouncey NT [nt]

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-04:36

Resonance

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : October 6th, 2019-04:15
There’s a new Resonance due in 2020, I’ve no idea what that might be in terms of dial side (movement is apparently new / updated). The below is the original, PT case, 38mm, white gold dial, brass movement. This reference, in 38mm and 40mm, ran in several ...  

Thanks for sharing mate

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-04:30
How many in total do you think were created over the 10-12 year space ? The Resonance is special for sure.

The Resonance!

 
 By: sham1 : October 6th, 2019-04:27
That is the watch that make me look at Journe twice!

And that you would have to (look twice) ! Lol

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-04:37
But if I may, why the resonance and not something else ?

For many years, the Resonance was only made by FPJ

 
 By: sham1 : October 6th, 2019-09:19
and one of the reasons for this is the challenge that this complication provided that not many embarked on it. It was the signature Journe. Today Arnold & Son also makes a Resonance but for me, the FPJ Resonance is still the Resonance.

No idea but I am sure

 
 By: sham1 : October 6th, 2019-09:20
it was a lot less than the final edition Resonance.

While it might Not be the quintessential as in "original", it's the Optimum for me

 
 By: nafetS : October 6th, 2019-04:27
That's Not taking Into Account my current collection. I had the choice between the Optimum and the Rattrapante and did choose the Rattrapante, because it's a better fit for my collection.

I have to say

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-04:34
I do have my eye set on the Optimum. But I wanted to hear everyone’s opinion. I never liked these sort of questions, “if there could only be one...”, or “What is the quintessential piece...” but they do put things into greater perspective, and also distil... 

The Optimum has a great Set of properties

 
 By: nafetS : October 6th, 2019-04:50
Simple, yet complicated. Interesting Combination of complications. Off-centered hours/minutes subdial typical for journe. Very well balanced Overall dial. Great movement in rose gold and with the dead second shown on the Back. I can Just find nothing wron... 

Mate why do I nod at everything you say...

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-05:04
Thanks for your perspective !!

To me Resonance or the Chronometre Souverain

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 6th, 2019-04:37
The Resonance. It is unique, interesting, wearable, beautiful, iconic. My personal favorite. My other favorite is the Chronometre Souverain. That is the perfect daily wearer. Probably one of the most accurate mechanical watches out there. Very reliable mo... 

You mean the CS is FPJ’s top 3?

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-04:44
I wonder what the other two are !

My guess is

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 6th, 2019-04:48
The Optimum and the Resonance.

Which brings to mind ...

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-04:49
No one has mentioned the Tourby yet !

The Tourbillon is very much loved

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 6th, 2019-04:55
For some that is the quintessential one! The GRAIL Journe!! I’m not it’s biggest fan but I I like it a lot. In terms of accuracy, a Tourbillon will lessen the accuracy which Mr Journe makes no secret of. It is something visual and technical. A very extrov... 

Thank you Christian

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-10:12
Your comments matter a lot. I think the nicest thing about being a watch collector is the journey itself. Whether it’s the CS, Resonance, Optimum or a tourbillon, making that decision and arriving at the end point is what matters the most. Still leaning t... 

I absolutely agree, Gatsby

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 6th, 2019-11:20
The discovery, the research the emotional journey. The Optimum is very much my taste. Im still debating with myself if I want a black or a grey dial. It is something I hope to make happen in a not too distant future. However, the new Resonance is happenin... 

Well, for me, given that he himself has basically said a Tourbillon is just marketing bull$h!t (I’m paraphrasing) I’ve find it hard to look at any of the FPJ Tourbillons.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : October 6th, 2019-10:15
But that’s just me and is in no way a comment on the quality or desirability of a Journe Tourbillon. I’d still prefer a Journe over pretty much any other.

I want to highlight one thing regarding the Journe Tourbillon. FP himself has said the Tourb is useless, and the best way to improve a tourbillon watch is to remove it.

 
 By: cmmnsens : October 6th, 2019-13:01
But what makes a Journe Tourbillon special, is the use of a Remontoir d'Egalité. That's what makes it perform better than others.

Yes, good point! this is an important point in the equation..

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 6th, 2019-14:23
All three utilize the Remontoir. I agree with what others stated - it is still one of the nicest Tourbillons out there. Extremely beautiful and several combinations that are stunning and perfect in their own right, just as with the Resonance.

For me, the model which epitomises all things Journe is...

 
 By: Boron : October 6th, 2019-07:21
the Quantieme Perpetual.

The first Journe that caught my attention,

 
 By: Alex83 : October 6th, 2019-09:59
Was the Octa Calendrier, and I still think it's one of his most charming ones. That freaky calendar around half of the dial is so unique! I guess most people will recommend the resonance. It is very nice watch and has a ton of Journe DNA off course, I had...  

Wow Alex... thanks for sharing

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-10:07
Those are some really beautiful pieces you’ve got there. I’ve heard about the winding on the Resonance. It would be a problem for me especially since I’m always on the go and perpetually in a rush

Amazing

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 6th, 2019-11:22
Is that your t-30, Alex? its is a dream piece

Was... Yes.

 
 By: Alex83 : October 7th, 2019-15:13
An important Journe for sure. Opening the case back to see the mouvement felt like opening a treasure chest.

FP has famously said his favorite watch is the next one...

 
 By: cmmnsens : October 6th, 2019-10:05
But in the context of the brand's history, if I could only choose one, I would go for either the Resonance, CS or Optimum. Or if you really want to go for the less obvious - the T-30. Resonance: for its technical brilliance and historical significance. CS... 

Thanks Christian [nt]

 
 By: cmmnsens : October 6th, 2019-12:48

He also said the following:

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : October 6th, 2019-14:00
A quote from a blog post by our friend TJG (O: I hope it’s OK to quote here): “Interestingly enough, during one of my discussions with Journe, I had pitched the question regarding what he thinks would be one of his most memorable achievements. Such a ques... 

Great find Jay [nt]

 
 By: cmmnsens : October 6th, 2019-15:30

😂 [nt]

 
 By: cmmnsens : October 7th, 2019-21:31

Thanks mate

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-22:03
Very nice summary there and it does put things into perspective

Centigraphe

 
 By: shafran : October 6th, 2019-12:05
I have one. I had a cb and a cs. I love the Centigraphe.

That one is nice for sure

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-22:05
I remember I was quite ecstatic when it was first released

for me no question...

 
 By: keks : October 6th, 2019-12:18
38mm white metal tourbillon... no doubts there!

Thanks mate ;-)

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-22:06
That would be...the next level up for me lol

souscription or 1st gen tourbillon

 
 By: Deardorff8x10 : October 6th, 2019-15:38
...  

Thanks for sharing

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-22:06
Beautiful watch

A killer this one

 
 By: keks : October 7th, 2019-02:13
Amazing piece

Thanks! [nt]

 
 By: Deardorff8x10 : October 7th, 2019-11:42

Oh boy - what a dial! Yes, it is definately my favorite Tourbillon!

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 7th, 2019-12:24
Thank you for posting it. Please feel obliged to do so more often

There's no one real answer...

 
 By: TJG : October 6th, 2019-16:53
Because it depends mostly on what you have in your collection. That said, if you want one icon to seal the deal I would think a Resonance. The choice of which one I will leave it up to you, no need to be so specific. The Resonance is also a timepiece that... 

Thank you mate

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-22:10
Agree that there is no one straight answer to my question. It is interesting that the Resonance has been brought up numerous times throughout this discussion. And this I must say, seems to be the watch that put FPJ on the world map. I kinda share your sen... 

Your question is easier to answer with many other brands than with FPJ...

 
 By: CR : October 6th, 2019-20:55
... because for me there isn't a clearly "iconic" FPJ piece -- no Royal Oak, Submariner, Lange 1, Moonwatch, etc. I'd wonder what else you have in your collection, to see which FPJ models might fill a void, as well as wrist size. Personally, I'm a fan of ...  

Thank you CR

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-22:16
First and foremost that’s a beautiful watch that you own — congrats! Agree that the aesthetics of FPJ are seemingly unanimous across, and I would have to try them on my wrist. I reckon it’s all in the nuance, and God is in the detail. I have an inclinatio... 

Amazing Tourbillon!

 
 By: IndieFan : October 7th, 2019-02:01
I'm guessing that's an '01 cased Tourbillon... it's a bit difficult for me to tell in your pic, is that a rose gold case with white gold labyrinthe dial? Beautiful piece

Correct, RG case with WG dial. The documentation I received says 5 Labyrinthe dials were made and presented in 3 different configurations...

 
 By: CR : October 7th, 2019-19:32
PT case/YG dial, PT case/RG dial, and mine (RG case/WG dial). I fell in love with this as soon as I saw it, primarily due to the way that the curvature of the engraving blends so harmoniously with the (horizontally oriented) power reserve indicator and th... 

Wauw, what a set you posted there.

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 7th, 2019-12:28
That T is ultra rare! I really appreciate your point about how different the pieces wear. The real test is on the wrist. However it is hard not to get just a little jealous when we see pictures like this!

Sincere thanks to everyone of you

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 6th, 2019-22:27
This has been a fruitful discussion, and really enjoyed the different perspectives and also the photos that were shared here on this post. I think it is almost definite that I will end up owning a Journe in this life time. However for the most part of my ... 

The Journey is an important Part of our addiction. Enjoy every second of it!

 
 By: nafetS : October 7th, 2019-01:33
I'm looking Forward to See what your next steps will be.

Resonance for me...

 
 By: maverickmahesh : October 8th, 2019-06:55
It brought it an unique movement architecture & concept & very much Journe 😍

When I first collect FP Journe,

 
 By: CL : October 8th, 2019-08:16
I started with the MOP Resonance, followed by a CS, then the 3rd generation Tourbillon. At one point , I sold all of them to purchase something else. Then when I have my mean again, I bought the Resonance first generation. It is iconic but setting the tim...