F.P. Journe

My sincere apologies that my only two posts in the Journe forum are about soliciting advice, but buying FPJ pieces from boutiques/ADs is hard to achieve, and this remains such a wonderful forum where fellow collectors help each other I have a few question...  

The seller isn't telling you a lot if he says this is a new watch but sold without the usual things a new watch comes with. I have a cb from the first year of production and it came with similar box and accoutrements to the CS you are looking at. The two ... 

I’m now confirming the provenance with Journe HQ, and I assume it’ll check out just fine. But even if it does, I’m very particular about getting the full package (with all ‘accoutrements’) and this may just erk me and ruin the entire ownership experience.... 

I don't remember about the warranty, so I didn't comment there, my apologies.

As an FYI for another people wondering the same question: the warranty (and warranty extension) are transferrable

If the watch is in good condition and keeps time accurately, the pricing fair, having the box, warranty card and some papers, it already makes a quite good package.

That being said, life is unpredictable and tastes change; I’d hate to be in a position where I have a lot of explaining to do Besides, that large wooden box is just so so nice 😍

I'd say you are getting adequate insurance that it's genuine. If you are happy with the watch and the deal, why not? In my experience, ADs are relatively loose in controlling the small items. As am I when selling a watch I forget it came with two straps s...  

The seller didn’t strike me as one to misplace those sorts of accompaniments, and isn’t claiming that he lost them. That’s just what was given to him. The issue is that in our discussion, it became clear that all his other timepiece acquisitions included ... 

I have never traded an FPJ, but in my many experiences in trading in watches to get other ones, I have found that the first thing dealers ask for in many cases, before even looking at the watch, is the guaranty card surprisingly. Then the watch, finally t... 

I checked the watch out in person, and examined the dial, case and caseback with a loupe. It checks out (it’s not like it’s easy to produce counterfeit FP Journe timepieces…I think)

I think the seller got a NOS from the AD. Based on the box and card type, this piece should have been shipped to AD before 2017, but it never got sold or registered until 2021. All pieces from Journe after 2017 are coming in the small square box. Hope tha... 

Was there a leather wallet and polishing cloth in the package of pre-2017 watches? Hoping you know.

I believe there was no leather wallet with this packing. I think your piece is quite early based on your card type, But I can't tell exactly without the serial number.

Thanks for your help

Be patient. Watch store inventories are rising as demand is slowing down from its all time highs.

my patience is close to running out. And the local Journe boutique has no shortage of billionaires courting the management and sales staff at all times. So I’d say my chances are slim But I do agree that the markets are softening: hence this proposition a... 

If you are ready to pay a premium, the conditions and set look fine, you need no further investigations. But according to your recent posts, you are still doubtful. Perhaps your last purchase has left you more cautious about seller's statements (watches a... 

It is very obvious that some missing parts (even the cloth) is bothering you. So it is possible that after the acquisition you won't be pleased. The fact that you are considering a sale/trade already is not a good sign. I would generally not buy used but ... 

Some inkling of connection with a boutique, it would be unlikely to get a piece at msrp.

I used to visit with the the LA boutique staff frequently back in 2015-2017, but the staff have been replaced and I moved thousands of miles away.

. I lived by this rule for 20 years. And i never wanted to break it. But a neighbor and close friend has slowly influenced me to consider "changing my ways". after all, this particular proportion was being offered at 7% above MSRP+VAT

…sorry for being late to the thread. I just read through it and don’t have much to add from what has been said. It sounds like you have already established that the watch is not stolen and that manufacture warranty will cover you. Condition is satisfactor... 

and I found it in my bag 😅 I had a chance to buy a Journe in 2015 from the boutique (I think the same model) but I passed and today is pretty much impossible. That's fine but I wouldn't pay over MSRP no matter what, no matter which brand. This is rule #1.... 

Believe it or not, the collector himself gave me the same advice: “buying an expensive luxury watch has to be a complete experience, so if this is going to be an incomplete experience, don’t buy it from me” So, I’m ok with that. However, it’s hard to come... 

And I agree. Never, ever buy unseen. It have been burned so badly in the past as well. I know how it feels. So, no it will not be easy to find an other one. Regarding your question: No, not normal at all. On the other hand sometimes I have heard of rare a... 

the reality is that before the hype F.P. Journe pieces were difficult to move for ADs. Less difficult for their own boutiques. This said, as you did verify @ Journe that all is okay with the watch this shouldn't be an issue. So if I am not mistaken you di... 

I saw and handled the watch. What led to ask about the other “small things” was examination under a loupe: the numerals and hands all had significant smudge marks. This is the version with applied white gold numerals

It was clear that the dial, numerals, hands, movement and case of the two watches was night and day [different]. The watch mentioned in this thread just didn’t feel “special” and the hands and numerals had smudges and the movement shine was “off”. So I mo...  

We’ll never find out, which shows you what a scary world we live in