Zenith Defy Extreme: Design Comparison & Discussion
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Zenith Defy Extreme: Design Comparison & Discussion

By oyster case · Apr 9, 2021 · 26 replies
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In a candid post, WatchProSite member 'oyster case' sparked a lively debate by questioning Zenith's design direction, specifically with the Defy Extreme. He argues that the new model bears a striking resemblance to other iconic sports watches, prompting a community discussion on brand identity, market pressures, and the balance between heritage and innovation in luxury watchmaking.

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First the Chronomaster Sport/Daytona and now the Defy Extreme/RO Offshore 44? It appears Zenith is doubling down on drawing inspiration, to be diplomatic, from other brands designs.  

Squaring the case sides while adding the twelve/octagonal under bezel and changing the pusher integration like this? I’m disappointed in Zenith. Extremely. 



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1WatchMan
Apr 9, 2021
I'm getting very confused with this industry lately, which is generating on me a degree of frustration and disappointment

I guess that every product has its target audience...

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oyster case
Apr 9, 2021
You've expressed it well.

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CastorKrieg
Apr 9, 2021
What else they can do?

Let’s face it, vast majority of these brands sell absolutely minuscule amounts of product. On one hand you have Rolex, on the top Patek Philippe, and Apple cornering the smart watch market and murdering all mechanical watch competitors sub-1000$. Only brands that can survive this are the ones that have grail watches (AP), or have really small production numbers (ALS). Even then it’s not easy - you can make a case all the aventurine dials of ALS are clearly targeted at the Asian market, which is

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oyster case
Apr 9, 2021
You make a very good point. It is a difficult situation, maybe it's too much to hope that it would lead to inspired deisigns, like AP and Genta acheived during the difficulties faced during that era.

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CastorKrieg
Apr 9, 2021
Zenith as many brands need an iconic watch

El Primero is not it, it’s a movement and people are looking for recognisable shape. Right now unless you are super high end you will struggle without a stainless steel sports watch - even Lange recognised that If Zenith was super niche making less than 1000 watches a year they can survive on anything, but not in the current climate. I wouldn’t be surprised if we will be hearing about lots of layoffs happening soon in those Tier-2 brands.

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FabR
Apr 9, 2021
Nice observations, you’ve summed up very simply and eloquently what I’m sure many people think...with the possible exception of the market up to $5k or so, and some select Indies, I think you drew a very realistic picture of the current situation👍

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