
Moderator patrick_y shares a compelling personal anecdote that challenges common assumptions about watch accuracy and servicing. His experience, initially rooted in a belief that five days of consistent timekeeping indicated perfect health, was gently but firmly corrected by a respected watchmaker. This article delves into patrick_y's subsequent investigation, offering valuable insights into why determining a watch's true accuracy is far more complex than many collectors realize.
The Genesis
A watchmaker once told me that I needed to service my watch. I said no, I didnât need servicing, citing âIâve been wearing the watch five days straight and the watch has kept perfect time.â
Before we assume the watchmaker was greedy, let me state the watchmaker is a well respected watchmaker here on WatchProSite. He only makes and services one brand of watch and does not service the brand of watch I happened to be wearing during the situation above. So he definitely wasnât mentioning it for his benefit!
The watchmaker didnât argue, but suggested my âfive daysâ of evidence was âsuperficial.â And for a long time, I didnât know what he meant â wasnât my âwear the watch five days straightâ approach bulletproof? Hmm. One of the things my mentor taught me was, âyou donât know what you donât know.â Perhaps this was one of those things!
Raw Data
Letâs look at some raw data:
| Date | Time | Watch | Fast/Slow | Difference | On Winder | Crown Pos. | Comments |
| 3-Oct-24 | 9:30AM | Chopard | 0 | 0 | No | Up | Watch Stopped, Reset Time to +0/sec |
| 3-Oct-24 | 11:06AM | Chopard | 0 | 0 | 900CW/900CCW | Scatola Rotor 1 | Watch put on winder for 48 hours; watch is fully wound |
| 5-Oct-24 | 11:13AM | Chopard | 6 | 6 | 900CW/900CCW | Scatola Rotor 1 | Watch gained about 3 seconds a day |
| 5-Oct-24 | 11:15AM | Chopard | 6 | 0 | No | Crown Down | Watch being put crown down to see if watch runs fast crown down |
| 5-Oct-24 | 5:00PM | Chopard | 5 | -1 | No | Wrist | |
| 5-Oct-24 | 10:53PM | Chopard | 6 | 1 | 900CW/900CCW | Scatola Rotor 1 | |
| 6-Oct-24 | 8:21AM | Chopard | 7 | 1 | 900CW/900CCW | ||
| 7-Oct-24 | 1:22PM | Chopard | 12 | 5 | No | Wrist | Watch gained a lot in short time. Wearing Chopard watch on wrist. |
| 7-Oct-24 | 7:28PM | Chopard | 12 | 0 | 1140 CW | Scatola SL Winder | |
| 8-Oct-24 | 9:45AM | Choaprd | 14 | 2 | No | Crown Up | Watch was in winder about 14 hours and now resting on nightstand crown up. |
| 9-Oct-24 | 8:13AM | Chopard | 20 | 6 | No | Wrist | After resting 22 hours crown up, watch has gained another 6 seconds. Wearing watch today. |
| 9-Oct-24 | 9:09PM | Chopard | Crown Up | Wore watch for 13 hours today. Leaving watch crown up. | |||
| 10-Oct-24 | 1:38PM | Chopard | 22 | 2 | 1140CW | Scatola SL Winder | Put watch on winder. Watch has gained 2 seconds |
| 10-Oct-24 | 8:05PM | Chopard | 28 | 6 | 1140CW | Scatola SL Winder | Watch has gained another 2 seconds. Watch is still on the winder. |
| 11-Oct-24 | 9:54AM | Chopard | 33 | 5 | No | Wrist | Watch continues to gain a lot of time in a short period. In 49 hours it gained 13 seconds! |
| 11-Oct-24 | 9:45PM | Choaprd | 36 | 3 | No | Crown Down | Wore the watch almost 12 hours today. Resized bracelet. Putting watch crown down. |
| 12-Oct-24 | 10:14PM | Chopard | 45 | 9 | No | Crown Up | Was on the wrist today from 11AM till 10:14PM. |
| 13-Oct-24 | 7:24PM | Chopard | 64 | 19 | No | Crown Up | Was on the wrist today from 11AM till 7:24PM. |
| 14-Oct-24 | 9:05AM | Chopard | 75 | 11 | No | Wrist | This watch is gaining time rapidly! Tested for magnetism with compass. No indication of magnetism. |
| 14-Oct-24 | 5:49PM | Chopard | 87 | 12 | No | Crown Up | This watch is gaining tremendous time. |
| 15-Oct-24 | 8:26AM | Chopard | No | Crown Up | Watch Stopped, indicating 7:47AM, Reset Time to +0/sec | ||
| 15-Oct-24 | 9:06AM | Chopard | 0 | 0 | No | Scatola Rotor 1 | Watch reset to +0 seconds. |
| 15-Oct-24 | 5:11PM | Choaprd | 0 | 0 | 900CW/900CCW | Scatola Rotor 1 | Watch on winder hasn't gained nor lost any time at all. |
| 16-Oct-24 | 9:20AM | Chopard | No | Wrist | Wore watch. | ||
| 16-Oct-24 | 7:35PM | Chopard | 1 | 1 | 900CW/900CCW | Wore watch for 10 hours today. Putting onto winder. Strange that it's running perfectly normally. | |
| 19-Oct-24 | 11:14AM | Chopard | 0 | -1 | No | Was in the winder for two days. | |
| 20-Oct-24 | 11:35AM | Chopard | 5 | 5 | No | Wrist | Wearing watch today. Watch in various positions. |
| 20-Oct-24 | 10:07PM | Chopard | 7 | 2 | No | Crown Up | Wore watch today for 11 hours. Gained 2 seconds. Placing crown up. |
| 21-Oct-24 | 12:32PM | Chopard | 15 | 8 | No | Wrist | Watch has gained another 8 seconds in crown up position. |
Wow! Thatâs a lot of raw data. But what do these columns mean? Columns 1, 2, and 3 are self explanatory; but columns 4 and 5 are important; 4 is the total deviation from atomic time, and 5 is the difference (amount gained or lost) since the last measurement in the row above. We really want to pay attention to columns 4 and 5.
Pertinent Disclaimers
The watch is a COSC Certified watch, certified to be within -4/+6 seconds a day in all positions, and was completely within the warranty period (COSC certification is not guaranteed for watches outside of the warranty period). Obviously, a watch should be accurate every day.
Interpreted Data
Iâd like to split this data into three phases.
Phase 1: We can see here that the dates 05-October to 11-October, the watch behaved within COSC Specifications, never exceeding -4/+6 seconds a day. Very good performance!
Phase 2: 12-October to 15-October, you can see this watch is starting to behave strangely. Gaining approximately 9 seconds on the 12th, 19 seconds on the 13th of October, and 23 seconds on the 14th of October. The watch all of a sudden became a very inaccurate watch. Way outside of the COSC specs. Youâll even notice I tested for magnetism on the 14th of October, no magnetism was present.
Phase 3: 16-October to 20-October, you can see the watch is behaving normally again, very accurate. Gaining only 7 seconds in four days! Thatâs great performance.
Ways To Misinterpret The Data
I think we can all agree, this watch is NOT accurate. And probably wouldnât pass COSC testing at this stage.
But, had we only looked at a âfive dayâ stretch in Phase 1, weâd have thought the watch was wonderful. A great watch! Nothing to complain about. Always within the -4/+6 seconds as COSC testing would prescribe.
But, we never considered had we just looked a day or two into Phase 2, weâd be stripping this watch of its certification! On the 14th of October, I thought the watch was magnetized, but after a compass test, nothing moved the needle. How odd!
And look at phase 3, the watch somehow regained all of its accuracy! Whatâs going on with this watch?
So itâs important to not just look at a small subset of data. Watchmakers typically look at a watch for two weeks or more and at different states of wind! When I said âfive daysâ and an unscientific test, that was much too âsuperficialâ for their standards!
How Watchmakers Perceive Us Consumers
Consumers in many cultures often think, âthe customer is always right.â And to watchmakers, they would often disagree with this motto â especially when it comes to our âsuperficialâ interpretations of accuracy.
Watchmakers often say that customers always misunderstand accuracy. And it's a complex topic to discuss. And did you know accuracy and precision are two separate things? So much to learn!
I can now have empathy for the watchmaker in the beginning of my story...
Conclusion
I see the error of my ways! As a consumer, I shouldn't try to define watch accuracy on my own terms. And my terms; the "five days of continuous wearing" I now see as woefully inadequate. And now I realize why watchmakers take two weeks or more for their accuracy tests. Iâll be a little more patient for my watch in the future!
Please comment!
Has a watchmaker helped you grow your understanding of this hobby (and grow a little more as a person)? I invite you to please tell us what happened and what you realized!

i will confess to be more than a little obsessive about my watch showing the right time and will accept it being 2-5 seconds fast or slow once it breaches that figure I find myself compelled to reset it. Thankfully with my current watches that I wear that never seems to exceed once every 7 to 10 days usually which I do not find to be too intrusive as I actually quite enjoy re syncing my watch to the correct time to the second. Obviously on some watches this is easier to achieve than on others bu
I have more data and advice from watchmakers about watch winders coming! But overall, they're not a bad thing to use! Overall, the main thing is to not make judgments over only five days of accuracy testing. And let it ride out over at least two weeks and over different states of wind and in different position. You may find that the watch is very accurate in the top half of the power reserve and less accurate in the lower half. I like to have my watches crown down. If you put wear on the 9 o'clo
Beauty and design also mustsâŚbut who buys a Ferrari or Aston Martin not caring about the 0-60? CuriousâŚmy Omega 2500 Seamaster has to go back (3rd time originally for cleaning keeping perfect time) but now loses 20 MINUTES per day when itâs on my wristâŚon the winder it only loses seconds. Iâm giving Omega a bit of a mulligan on this one as itâs a 2005 movement that was transitional as opposed to my 8 &9000 movements that have been practically perfectâŚtime will tell (sorry about thatđ)
Do we buy fancy watches for their performance criteria? Accuracy being one of them? It's part of it I guess. But my main point is we consumers shouldn't try to define accuracy on our own terms. And now I see why my "five day" statement was laughable by watchmaker standards! Hopefully Omega gets your watch done right this time!
Accuracy in a timepiece is fleeting, it'll eventually break down / drift. Worse still, when it gets serviced and comes back less accurate than when new.
Theoretically that rating goes away once the watch is serviced. Unless it's something like the Patek Seal which says if your watch is serviced it should be returned to +2/-2 seconds for a period of 2 years (the warranty period of the service). But my main point is that we consumers need to realize that we see accuracy differently than watchmakers. And when I thought my "five day accuracy test" was very thorough; the watchmaker probably saw that and laughed at my unscientific ignorance!
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