Watch Accuracy: Technical Discussion & Measurement
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Watch Accuracy: Technical Discussion & Measurement

By patrick_y · Apr 10, 2025 · 19 replies
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Moderator patrick_y shares a compelling personal anecdote that challenges common assumptions about watch accuracy and servicing. His experience, initially rooted in a belief that five days of consistent timekeeping indicated perfect health, was gently but firmly corrected by a respected watchmaker. This article delves into patrick_y's subsequent investigation, offering valuable insights into why determining a watch's true accuracy is far more complex than many collectors realize.

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Moderator Patrick_y  made a big assumption and wants to help prevent you from making the same assumption! 

 

The Genesis

 

A watchmaker once told me that I needed to service my watch.  I said no, I didn’t need servicing, citing “I’ve been wearing the watch five days straight and the watch has kept perfect time.”  

 

Before we assume the watchmaker was greedy, let me state the watchmaker is a well respected watchmaker here on WatchProSite.  He only makes and services one brand of watch and does not service the brand of watch I happened to be wearing during the situation above.  So he definitely wasn’t mentioning it for his benefit!  

 

The watchmaker didn’t argue, but suggested my “five days” of evidence was “superficial.”  And for a long time, I didn’t know what he meant – wasn’t my “wear the watch five days straight” approach bulletproof?  Hmm.  One of the things my mentor taught me was, “you don’t know what you don’t know.”  Perhaps this was one of those things!  

 

Raw Data

 

Let’s look at some raw data:

 

DateTimeWatchFast/Slow DifferenceOn WinderCrown Pos.Comments
3-Oct-249:30AMChopard00NoUpWatch Stopped, Reset Time to +0/sec
3-Oct-2411:06AMChopard00900CW/900CCWScatola Rotor 1Watch put on winder for 48 hours; watch is fully wound
5-Oct-2411:13AMChopard66900CW/900CCWScatola Rotor 1Watch gained about 3 seconds a day
5-Oct-2411:15AMChopard60NoCrown DownWatch being put crown down to see if watch runs fast crown down
5-Oct-245:00PMChopard5-1NoWrist 
5-Oct-2410:53PMChopard61900CW/900CCWScatola Rotor 1 
6-Oct-248:21AMChopard71900CW/900CCW  
7-Oct-241:22PMChopard125NoWristWatch gained a lot in short time.  Wearing Chopard watch on wrist.
7-Oct-247:28PMChopard1201140 CWScatola SL Winder 
8-Oct-249:45AMChoaprd142NoCrown UpWatch was in winder about 14 hours and now resting on nightstand crown up.
9-Oct-248:13AMChopard206NoWristAfter resting 22 hours crown up, watch has gained another 6 seconds.  Wearing watch today.
9-Oct-249:09PMChopard   Crown UpWore watch for 13 hours today.  Leaving watch crown up.
10-Oct-241:38PMChopard2221140CWScatola SL WinderPut watch on winder.  Watch has gained 2 seconds
10-Oct-248:05PMChopard2861140CWScatola SL WinderWatch has gained another 2 seconds.  Watch is still on the winder.
11-Oct-249:54AMChopard335NoWristWatch continues to gain a lot of time in a short period.  In 49 hours it gained 13 seconds!
11-Oct-249:45PMChoaprd363NoCrown DownWore the watch almost 12 hours today.  Resized bracelet. Putting watch crown down.  
12-Oct-2410:14PMChopard459NoCrown UpWas on the wrist today from 11AM till 10:14PM.  
13-Oct-247:24PMChopard6419NoCrown UpWas on the wrist today from 11AM till 7:24PM. 
14-Oct-249:05AMChopard7511NoWristThis watch is gaining time rapidly!  Tested for magnetism with compass.  No indication of magnetism.  
14-Oct-245:49PMChopard8712NoCrown UpThis watch is gaining tremendous time.
15-Oct-248:26AMChopard  NoCrown UpWatch Stopped, indicating 7:47AM, Reset Time to +0/sec
15-Oct-249:06AMChopard00NoScatola Rotor 1Watch reset to +0 seconds.  
15-Oct-245:11PMChoaprd00900CW/900CCWScatola Rotor 1Watch on winder hasn't gained nor lost any time at all.
16-Oct-249:20AMChopard  NoWristWore watch.
16-Oct-247:35PMChopard11900CW/900CCW Wore watch for 10 hours today.  Putting onto winder.  Strange that it's running perfectly normally.
19-Oct-2411:14AMChopard0-1No Was in the winder for two days.  
20-Oct-2411:35AMChopard55NoWristWearing watch today.  Watch in various positions.
20-Oct-2410:07PMChopard72NoCrown UpWore watch today for 11 hours.  Gained 2 seconds.  Placing crown up.
21-Oct-2412:32PMChopard158NoWristWatch has gained another 8 seconds in crown up position.

 

 

Wow!  That’s a lot of raw data.  But what do these columns mean?  Columns 1, 2, and 3 are self explanatory; but columns 4 and 5 are important; 4 is the total deviation from atomic time, and 5 is the difference (amount gained or lost) since the last measurement in the row above.  We really want to pay attention to columns 4 and 5. 

 

Pertinent Disclaimers

 

The watch is a COSC Certified watch, certified to be within -4/+6 seconds a day in all positions, and was completely within the warranty period (COSC certification is not guaranteed for watches outside of the warranty period).  Obviously, a watch should be accurate every day.  

 

Interpreted Data

 

I’d like to split this data into three phases.  

 

Phase 1:  We can see here that the dates 05-October to 11-October, the watch behaved within COSC Specifications, never exceeding -4/+6 seconds a day.  Very good performance!  

 

Phase 2:  12-October to 15-October, you can see this watch is starting to behave strangely.  Gaining approximately 9 seconds on the 12th, 19 seconds on the 13th of October, and 23 seconds on the 14th of October.  The watch all of a sudden became a very inaccurate watch.  Way outside of the COSC specs.  You’ll even notice I tested for magnetism on the 14th of October, no magnetism was present.

 

Phase 3: 16-October to 20-October, you can see the watch is behaving normally again, very accurate.  Gaining only 7 seconds in four days!  That’s great performance.  

 

Ways To Misinterpret The Data

 

I think we can all agree, this watch is NOT accurate.  And probably wouldn’t pass COSC testing at this stage.  

 

But, had we only looked at a “five day” stretch in Phase 1, we’d have thought the watch was wonderful.  A great watch!  Nothing to complain about.  Always within the -4/+6 seconds as COSC testing would prescribe. 

 

But, we never considered had we just looked a day or two into Phase 2, we’d be stripping this watch of its certification!  On the 14th of October, I thought the watch was magnetized, but after a compass test, nothing moved the needle.  How odd!  

 

And look at phase 3, the watch somehow regained all of its accuracy!  What’s going on with this watch?  

 

So it’s important to not just look at a small subset of data.  Watchmakers typically look at a watch for two weeks or more and at different states of wind!  When I said “five days” and an unscientific test, that was much too “superficial” for their standards!  

 

How Watchmakers Perceive Us Consumers

 

Consumers in many cultures often think, “the customer is always right.”  And to watchmakers, they would often disagree with this motto – especially when it comes to our “superficial” interpretations of accuracy.  


Watchmakers often say that customers always misunderstand accuracy.  And it's a complex topic to discuss.  And did you know accuracy and precision are two separate things?  So much to learn!  

 

I can now have empathy for the watchmaker in the beginning of my story...  

 

Conclusion

 

I see the error of my ways!  As a consumer, I shouldn't try to define watch accuracy on my own terms.  And my terms; the "five days of continuous wearing" I now see as woefully inadequate.  And now I realize why watchmakers take two weeks or more for their accuracy tests.  I’ll be a little more patient for my watch in the future! 

 

 

Please comment!

 

Has a watchmaker helped you grow your understanding of this hobby (and grow a little more as a person)?  I invite you to please tell us what happened and what you realized!




And if all of that doesn't work, then I should just get one of these Urwerk Atomic Clock watches!  

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Marc Obermann
Apr 10, 2025
That was a very interesting and informative read.

i will confess to be more than a little obsessive about my watch showing the right time and will accept it being 2-5 seconds fast or slow once it breaches that figure I find myself compelled to reset it. Thankfully with my current watches that I wear that never seems to exceed once every 7 to 10 days usually which I do not find to be too intrusive as I actually quite enjoy re syncing my watch to the correct time to the second. Obviously on some watches this is easier to achieve than on others bu

PA
patrick_y
Apr 10, 2025
Very cool!

I have more data and advice from watchmakers about watch winders coming! But overall, they're not a bad thing to use! Overall, the main thing is to not make judgments over only five days of accuracy testing. And let it ride out over at least two weeks and over different states of wind and in different position. You may find that the watch is very accurate in the top half of the power reserve and less accurate in the lower half. I like to have my watches crown down. If you put wear on the 9 o'clo

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myles721
Apr 10, 2025
Time matters…or WHY WEAR A WATCH???

Beauty and design also musts…but who buys a Ferrari or Aston Martin not caring about the 0-60? Curious…my Omega 2500 Seamaster has to go back (3rd time originally for cleaning keeping perfect time) but now loses 20 MINUTES per day when it’s on my wrist…on the winder it only loses seconds. I’m giving Omega a bit of a mulligan on this one as it’s a 2005 movement that was transitional as opposed to my 8 &9000 movements that have been practically perfect…time will tell (sorry about that😏)

PA
patrick_y
Apr 10, 2025
Good points!

Do we buy fancy watches for their performance criteria? Accuracy being one of them? It's part of it I guess. But my main point is we consumers shouldn't try to define accuracy on our own terms. And now I see why my "five day" statement was laughable by watchmaker standards! Hopefully Omega gets your watch done right this time!

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enjoythemusic
Apr 10, 2025
Yes, watchmakers have helped increase my love for horology.

Accuracy in a timepiece is fleeting, it'll eventually break down / drift. Worse still, when it gets serviced and comes back less accurate than when new.

PA
patrick_y
Apr 10, 2025
Yes! The watch is only certified when it's new and under warranty.

Theoretically that rating goes away once the watch is serviced. Unless it's something like the Patek Seal which says if your watch is serviced it should be returned to +2/-2 seconds for a period of 2 years (the warranty period of the service). But my main point is that we consumers need to realize that we see accuracy differently than watchmakers. And when I thought my "five day accuracy test" was very thorough; the watchmaker probably saw that and laughed at my unscientific ignorance!

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