Vintage Scroll Lugs Guide
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Vintage Scroll Lugs Guide

By quattro · Mar 18, 2026 · 12 replies
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Emmanuel, known as 'quattro' on WatchProSite, presents a captivating exploration of scroll lugs, a distinctive design element found in vintage Patek Philippe and Vacheron Constantin timepieces. His detailed comparison of the Patek Philippe Ref. 1491 'Ricciolo' and Vacheron Constantin's pre-reference 'Ricciolo' variants invites collectors to delve into the nuances of these iconic designs. Emmanuel's personal preferences and high-quality imagery serve as an excellent starting point for understanding the aesthetic appeal and historical significance of these rare watches.

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Patek Philippe and Vacheron Constantin have both experimented with the scroll lugs design.

Is it a no-go for you or do you like it? 

And do you have a preference for a particular variant?

Best, Emmanuel


A/ PATEK PHILIPPE REF. 1491

The Italian nickname of this reference is “Ricciolo”, Italian for “Curl”

1/ SMALL SECONDS

Example in pink gold circa 1951 - 34 x 44 mm case

I'm personally in love with the patinated dial and this is my personal favorite.





Watch, Calatrava, 1491, Ricciolo, Patek Philippe






credit: Swiss Hours


WHITE GOLD VARIANT




credit: @alpina_b10_allrad


2/ CENTER SECONDS

Example in yellow gold from the 1940s - Blued-steel sweep second hand

I personally prefer the small seconds dial: what about you?









Caliber 27SC








B/ VACHERON CONSTANTIN PRE-REFERENCE “RICCIOLO”

I personally like Patek's ref. 1491 better: and you?

1/ BREGUET NUMERALS

Example in yellow gold














credit: highendtime.com


2/ BREGUET NUMERALS & “STELLINE” INDICES

Example in yellow gold featuring a satin silver dial with applied Breguet and Stelline (star) indices


credit: analog shift

About the Patek Philippe Calatrava Ref. 1491

The Patek Philippe Calatrava reference 1491 is notable for its distinctive scroll lugs, a design element that sets it apart from many other Calatrava models. This reference is sometimes referred to by its Italian nickname “Ricciolo,” meaning “Curl,” directly referencing the shape of its lugs. It represents a period of design experimentation within the Calatrava line, offering a more decorative aesthetic compared to the typically minimalist Calatrava cases.

This reference was produced in various precious metals, including 18k white gold and pink gold, with a case size of 34mm in diameter and a lug-to-lug measurement of 44mm. It features a manual winding movement and is typically fitted with a sapphire crystal. The power reserve for this caliber is 42 hours, and it offers a water resistance of 30 meters.

The 1491 appeals to collectors who appreciate Patek Philippe's mid-century designs and those seeking a Calatrava with a unique case profile. Its scroll lugs provide a specific visual character that distinguishes it from more common Calatrava iterations, making it a point of interest for collectors focused on design variations and historical context within the brand's output. Examples with patinated dials are particularly sought after.

Specifications

Caliber
ETA 2892-A2
Case
18k white gold
Diameter
34mm
Dial
Silver
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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MB
mblum3
Mar 18, 2026
I have a dagger through my heart with this

My favorite is the blue sweep. By a lot. About 15 years ago I had one that was new old stock. There was a crack on the crystal but it didn't shatter so the dial was safe. I sold it. Why? To fund another piece. Mistake. Big mistake. Breaks the 11th Commandment. Thou shall not sell vintage new old stock pieces unless you get a nice two bedroom in a great neighborhood.

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Vetnov
Mar 19, 2026
+1 on the center seconds. I like the scroll lugs.

QU
quattro
Mar 19, 2026
I find the center seconds variant very appealing too,

but I like the minute track with applied gold dots better than the enamel scale with numerals. And I love the patina on the dial of the first example. Best, Emmanuel

QU
quattro
Mar 19, 2026
Ouch, I really can feel this dagger!

And I feel for you! Sometimes, we learn the hard way... Best, Emmanuel

BR
bruckner4
Mar 18, 2026
Yes!

I too would go for the first pink version. A beauty...

QU
quattro
Mar 19, 2026
I'm glad you like it too.

The patina + the minute track with applied gold dots makes for a wonderful dial. Best, Emmanuel

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