Tudor Black Bay Fifty-Eight Design & WP Edition
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Tudor Black Bay Fifty-Eight Design & WP Edition

By amanico · Mar 29, 2018 · 79 replies
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amanico initiates a fascinating discussion on the Tudor Black Bay Fifty-Eight, delving into its design elements and proposing an ideal WatchProSite Edition. He meticulously compares the new BB58 with historical Tudor Submariner references, highlighting key features and suggesting modifications for a unique collector's piece.

The  Black Bay Fifty Eight: 

39 mm case, big crown, 0 to 15 graduated bezel gilt, red triangle, snowflake hands, gilt dial. Shield emblem.



The 7922: Mercedes hands, lollipop second hand. Rose Emblem. Small crown.




7923 good configuration: No graduated bezel ( only 5 minutes ) Rose emblem, small crown, pencil hands.



7923, Red Depth, with this special lollipop second hand, again. No red triangle. ( Credit picture, Jacek ).



7924: Red Triangle ( the good configuration ), big crown, black dial or patinated ( brown ), lollipop second hand. 0 to 15 bezel graduation.





And, now, the Black Bay Watch Only 2015 edition: Baton hands, lollipop second hand, red depth. 41 mm case. 



For a possible Watchprosite Edition, the ideal would be to keep the semi circular " officially certified " of the former ETA versions, which was self winding, by the way, as shown on the picture below:




Then, to remove the graduations from zero to fifteen, and to have them in silver rather than gilt. 

Then, to opt for a red depth line. 

And, last but not least, change the snowflake hands. 

We keep the 39 mm case with the nice beveled lugs, the in house movement, of course, the riveted bracelet in a package including a nice Nato and a rugged calf strap. 

Ok, ok, we will probably not have all we want, this is an ideal combination, for me, at least, but the key points are the red depth, the red triangle, and the pencil hands with the lollipop second hand, in my opinion. 

What do you think? 

Best,

Nicolas


About the Rolex Submariner Ref. 6536

The Rolex GMT-Master reference 6536 is an early example of the GMT-Master line, distinguished by its smaller case size compared to later iterations. This reference is notable for its introduction of the GMT complication, allowing for the simultaneous display of two time zones. It represents a foundational piece in the development of Rolex's travel watch offerings, preceding the more commonly seen 6542.

This reference features a stainless steel case measuring 37 mm in diameter, housing an automatic movement, specifically the caliber 1030. The watch is fitted with an acrylic crystal and offers a water resistance of 200 meters. The power reserve for this movement is approximately 42 hours, providing reliable timekeeping for daily wear.

For collectors, the 6536 holds interest as an early and less common GMT-Master reference. Its position in the lineage of the model highlights the initial design language and technical specifications before subsequent refinements. Variants within this reference may include subtle dial or bezel differences, which are often points of scrutiny for enthusiasts seeking originality.

Specifications

Caliber
1030
Case
Stainless steel
Diameter
37 mm
Dial
Black
Water Resist.
200m
Crystal
Acrylic

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Mark
Mar 29, 2018

I want this in 39mm.

AR
arcadelt
Mar 29, 2018

That watch looked great, but in 39mm would be awesome.

TD
TdotBean
Mar 29, 2018

Can't wait. No reason it should happen 😁

KE
keks
Mar 29, 2018

I very much like the idea of the Purist edition of this piece. Makes sense on many levels if can be achieved. In the meantime fun can be had in dreaming up a version. Your suggestions are very much in my taste I must admit... My perfect combo.... Case: same as the BB58 just released. Same crown as well. Bracelet: same BB58 Bezel: red triangle, not graduated (only 5 min) Dial: rose, Tudor logo, third row ideally β€œOyster” but β€œGeneva” is fine otherwise. Bottom half of dial depth not in red text (b

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sc16
Mar 29, 2018

and will definitely be in if it follows the principles as you have summarized. Granted not all can be achieved, but to your point the items you list as key points are key points for me as well (incl using the BB fifty eight as base). thanks for your thoughts on this. Regards, sc16

MA
Marcus Hanke
Mar 29, 2018

... in replacing its trademark design hands for some that are completely anonymous? Tudor invested some effort to establish these hands as their style, and if they were interestged to cooperate with PPro, then I am sure they want to be acknowledged as Tudor. You would not expect JLC to make a PPro watch looking like a Rolex, would you? And after two date-less PPro editions, at least a pointer calendar should be permitted ... Marcus

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