Seiko Presage New Wave: Price, Design, Accuracy

Key Points from the Discussion

• The accuracy of Seiko's 8L35 caliber, even in higher-end models, often requires human regulation to meet contemporary expectations, a contrast to modern Swiss mass-produced movements that achieve better accuracy through optimized production without manual intervention.
• High accuracy variations, like the +45/-30 seconds daily rating for these Presage models, can deter potential customers, as even high-end brands like Patek, Lange, and Rolex publish tight tolerances to avoid warranty claims and maintain customer confidence.
• The author suggests that perhaps the target customer for $500 Presage watches does not prioritize extreme accuracy, or that manufacturers might loosen specs to reduce warranty returns from customers who meticulously monitor their watches.
• It is argued that if Seiko cannot make their automatic movements perform accurately enough at a given price point, it might be better to utilize their well-made quartz movements instead, especially for classic designs targeting customers willing to pay a premium for accuracy.
• A contributor praises Seiko for transparently advertising the wide accuracy range, noting that while it's a worst-case scenario, it's a bold disclosure compared to other brands.
• The author shares a personal anecdote about a Seiko Presage with a 6R15 movement, rated +25/-15, performing at approximately +2 seconds per day after a year, suggesting real-world performance can exceed stated specifications.
• A comparison between a Grand Seiko and a Rolex shows similar accuracy over a week, indicating that while different, both can offer comparable performance in daily wear, despite varying official specifications.