Patek Philippe Cubitus Quartz Model Leak Analysis

chmandaue · 2024-10-16T10:47:56Z

Explore chmandaue's detailed analysis of a leaked Patek Philippe model, speculating on its potential as a quartz perpetual calendar. Uncover insights into luxury watch design, market strategy, and the technical possibilities of quartz complications.

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In a speculative dive into Patek Philippe's potential future, chmandaue meticulously dissects a leaked watch model, proposing a compelling argument for its quartz movement. His detailed analysis, complete with an annotated diagram, challenges conventional expectations and explores how a complex perpetual calendar could function within a quartz framework. This thought experiment offers valuable insights into the design considerations and technical possibilities that could shape luxury watchmaking.

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Before you dismiss the possibility out of hand, consider:

1) The dial lost the power reserve

2) There is a big date, day and moonphase. As a mechanical, all three would need to be corrected upon watch reset.

3) The small seconds has only twelve tick marks, not the 5 7 1 2's sixty tick marks. (Significance explained below.)

As a quartz watch, this is the dial of a big date perpetual calendar moonphase watch. The annotated photo explains how it all works.

Inside, there are 3 motors:

1) main motor for the minutes and hours

2) second motor for the small seconds

3) third motor for the big date

When setting the perpetual calendar in the outermost crown position, you first set the date. Then you push the crown in, pull out again quickly, and see the seconds hand jump to one of the 12 hash marks, You set the month. Another push/pull and the seconds points to one of 4 cardinal directions, Set the year of the leap year cycle. This is method patented by Rolex in 1987, and is now in the public domain.

Well, maybe I am wrong the above is another mechanical. But does it make sense to have day of the week, which is yet another thing to correct?

Key Points from the Discussion

The potential introduction of a quartz line by Patek Philippe could signal a strategic shift towards increased profitability and easier servicing, especially in a tightening financial market for luxury timepieces.
Historically, other brands like Piaget have successfully implemented perpetual calendar complications in quartz movements, utilizing methods such as automatically advancing time at month-ends to correct the date.
A platinum-cased, complicated quartz Patek Philippe could easily command a price point of $40,000, given existing Patek Philippe quartz models for ladies are already priced around $16,000 USD.
The aesthetic and strategic implications of such a release, particularly following the discontinuation of popular models like the 5711A, raise significant concerns among collectors regarding brand direction and long-term value.
The author's detailed analysis of the user interface for a potential quartz perpetual calendar, including a Rolex-patented setting method, was a commendable and insightful technical exploration, even if the watch ultimately proved to be mechanical.
If the leaked model were indeed quartz, it would fundamentally alter its market positioning, potentially serving as a more accessible entry point similar to how the Aquanaut Luce relates to the mechanical Aquanaut.

The Discussion

Chewbacca

Oct 16, 2024

A 30K-40K Quartz? They are having a laugh with this.

Surely that cant be right?

chmandaue

Oct 16, 2024

Why not?

FP Journe’s Elegante is 40K on secondary market, with no date

enjoythemusic

Oct 16, 2024

You Are Quoting Bubble-Economics. Honsty.... $40,000 for a FPJ Quartz is laughable imho. The BUBBLE POPPED FOLKS! It's GAME OVER. <<<

Now we enter the financial phase when timepiece manufacturers will have to get back to working to make a sale as was the historic norm. In fact, we may go back to the Asia crisis times or worse financially. Be prepared folks. Just ask LVMH stock / recent report. Let us all take a moment, a breath as it were, and know that for $40,000 you can get some very impressive mechanical timepieces (or two timepieces). But to be fair to PP, it is probably more profitable going quartz and servicing should b

patrick_y

Oct 17, 2024

Hmm. Actually, I can see that as a possibility.

Imagine if it's a PLATINUM cased watch, quartz, complicated, and from Patek Philippe. I can see that costing $40K easily on a strap. A steel, no complications, Patek Philippe, on a strap would already cost close to $20K. Data point is the Patek 24 for ladies is already $16K USD. A men's model would cost more and wouldn't have the diamonds.

chmandaue

Oct 18, 2024

Well it didn’t happen

Perpetual calendar instructions could have been: 1) you don’t need to reset it 2) take to AD every 4 years 3) consider to buy another watch from AD, while AD changes battery and seals

patrick_y

Oct 18, 2024

Still. I REALLY LIKED YOUR POST!

It was a nice technical post. And you covered the User Interface topic thoroughly. Even though it wasn't a quartz watch this time, I think you took a risk to show your thoughts! And I'm glad that you took a thoughtful risk! I was getting excited about getting a quartz watch too.

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