Patek Philippe Calatrava 570G vs 5227G DNA
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Patek Philippe Calatrava 570G vs 5227G DNA

By Baron - Mr Red · Oct 23, 2017 · 22 replies
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The Calatrava is one of the longest-running styles of reference within Patek Philippe. Starting with the Reference 96 in 1932, References 565 and 570 started in 1938. Production of the 570 continued through to the mid-1960s. My 570G is one of the very last 570s ever produced. There have been many di

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The Calatrava is one of the longest-running styles of reference within Patek Philippe. Starting with the Reference 96 in 1932, References 565 and 570 started in 1938. Production of the 570 continued through to the mid-1960s. My 570G is one of the very last 570s ever produced. There have been many different styles of Calatrava references. In fact, many more than I had imagined. Today's website shows 34 different models of Calatrava. In terms of number of specific references, I believe there have been around 40 diferent references over the last 85  years.  Appearance can be quite different across these different references and even within reference, but there is a DNA that shows through very clearly. Despite all the changes in fashion and society, the 570 DNA that started in the 1930s and was produced until the mid-1960s can be seen most clearly in today’s modern Calatravas.  Taking a look at the two watches pictured below, the 570G is on the left ...dating from the mid-1960s whereas the 5227G is on the right....dating from today. Around 50 years between these two watches, yet is it so easy to tell which is the elder?

I have been running a series of themes investigating the roots and DNA of today’s modern Patek Philippe. Looking at the 5070, 5370 and now the 5227. I don’t own a modern Calatrava. It is my aim to do so. I do own several vintage Calatravas and I think it would be great to add a modern variant at some point. The 5227 obviously comes with date, which would not be my ideal preference. Nonetheless, the history of the Calatrava comes through so clearly in the Reference 5227.

The 570G is an absolute joy to wear. It is as happy with a suit as it is with a pair of jeans. The simplicity of the dial coupled with the central second feature adds a lot for me. Deciding on what modern Calatrava is more difficult. The 5227 is most definitely in the frame. I do wonder what the 5227P will be like.

Hope you enjoy this short insight into the history.




About the Patek Philippe Calatrava Ref. 565

The Patek Philippe Reference 565 is a historically significant model, recognized for its clean design and robust construction, which positioned it as a versatile timepiece within the brand's offerings during its production era. It represents a period of design evolution for Patek Philippe, moving towards more contemporary aesthetics while retaining traditional watchmaking principles. The reference is particularly noted for its varied dial configurations and case materials, appealing to a broad range of collectors. It often featured a two-piece case construction, contributing to its durability and distinct profile.

This reference typically houses a manual-winding movement, known for its reliability and precision. Early examples often featured movements such as the Caliber 12-120, a well-regarded mechanism of its time. The case, frequently crafted from stainless steel, yellow gold, or rose gold, measured approximately 35mm in diameter, offering a balanced presence on the wrist. The crystal was commonly acrylic, providing a warm aesthetic consistent with watches of its period.

The Reference 565 holds considerable appeal for collectors interested in Patek Philippe's mid-century output, particularly those seeking models that combine understated elegance with solid mechanical foundations. Its variations, including those with sector dials or retailer signatures, add to its collectibility. The reference serves as an important link in the brand's design lineage, bridging earlier styles with later developments, and is valued for its authenticity and historical context within the Patek Philippe catalog.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal. 2892A2
Case
18k white gold
Diameter
38mm
Dial
Silver
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire
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blomman Mr Blue
Oct 23, 2017
Good to see the DNA runs strong here! [nt]

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Baron - Mr Red
Oct 23, 2017
it does......

.....what has been interesting in doing the research is finding some 40 different Calatrava references over 85 years....such diversity

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Ares501 - Mr Green
Oct 23, 2017
I'm truly enjoying this series...

and not only as molecular biologist Another excellent DNA post Cheers D

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Esharp
Oct 23, 2017
Indeed!

Nice post, thank you... My 'perfect' Calatrava would basically be like a 5196G with a cal 240, display back (maybe a cover with a hinge?) and the sub-seconds hand positioned lower down - and enlarged a bit, too, like a 5078 I guess. Never really thought about one with a centre seconds hand...that would be more mid-century modern...I can get behind that. Well, the one issue I have with the 5227 is the index at 12 o'clock. I really, really want that one to be a double index! Best E.

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Baron - Mr Red
Oct 23, 2017
deciding on a modern is actually quite tricky...i agree. [nt]

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dr.kol
Oct 23, 2017
Thanks for a nice post.

Why don't you give 5196P a try? It has a closed case back which is very traditional but the dial is stunning! If 5227P will appear one day, I'll have a very close look. The lacquered dial is very nice but black enamel would be a real winner. Best, Kari

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