
Watches_passion, a dedicated Patek Philippe enthusiast, initiates a crucial discussion for collectors: discerning whether the lugs of a Patek Philippe Ref. 5970 have been polished. This inquiry is vital for preserving a watch's original integrity and value, especially for a reference as significant as the 5970. His detailed images prompt the community to share expert opinions and practical advice on evaluating case condition.




The Patek Philippe Complications reference 5970 is a specific iteration within the Complications model line. This reference is available in white metal, specifically platinum, and also in rose gold.
The case material for this reference can be platinum or rose gold. The collector notes a preference for platinum due to its weight, exclusivity, and durability.
This reference appeals to collectors who prefer white metals for dress watches, with platinum being a primary choice and rose gold a close second. Its availability in these materials positions it for those seeking specific precious metal options within the Complications collection.
scratches on the lugs at all ?
I think I see some light hairlines on the lugs - second picture. I understand your concern. I used to collect coins and how do you grade a cleaned coin? They put on the grading label that it has been cleaned and how sharp the details are. The grade it would have been had it not been cleaned. At this level of watch, (or any level for me) polishing puts the piece in a different category. Just my opinion.
i am trying to confirm the watch was never polished... i am paying for a non polished one... once polished, the value goes down significantly...
It cannot lower the value imo. To me it looks fine and I wouldn’t bother
I imagine you looked at the photos from amanico. Does the watch appear as sharp? I have learned that when in doubt, don't. I guess it is a sister statement to good things come to those who wait. If you do decide it's unpolished, enjoy!! How could you not?!
I'm not sure how original or how to determine. However, looking at the pictures, the angles on the lugs look sharp to me. To me that is a good sign of not being polished, ie, using an abrasive wheel to smooth down defects. There even are slight scratches on the lugs. I will say, to me that is polishing, but I don't know anything of vintage watches. Now, did someone ever take a cape cod clith by hand to buff some hairlines... probably will never know. I'm sure pursits would then say it was polish
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