Martin Braun Heliozentric vs. VC Copernicus Celestial
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Martin Braun Heliozentric vs. VC Copernicus Celestial

By elliot55 · Jan 16, 2017 · 20 replies
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.... Here's a watch that was created by Master Watchmaker, Martin Braun, over ten years ago. It is called The Heliozentric. It was the first and only watch to depict the Earth's oval-shaped orbit around the sun. Here is the latest offering from Vacheron Constantine - The VC Metiers d' Art Copernicus

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.... Here's a watch that was created by Master Watchmaker, Martin Braun, over ten years ago.  It is called The Heliozentric.






It was the first and only watch to depict the Earth's oval-shaped orbit around the sun.

Here is the latest offering from Vacheron Constantine - The VC Metiers d' Art Copernicus Celestial:






Um, is it just me or should someone over at VC cut Mr. Braun a nice check for designing this watch for them?!?  Look at how the Earth tracks the Sun via an oval orbit.  Note how the Constellations are depicted. Vacheron Constantine even went so far as to include the Astrological Signs on the bezel, something Martin Braun did between 5:00 and 6:00.

At the end of the day, it really should not matter who the conceptual watchmaker was (or is), and frankly, VC ought to be ashamed of themselves for stealing.  I, for one, will never look at this legendary manufacturer in the same way ever again.  Borrowing is one thing.  Giving someone credit for their ideas is quite another.  But stealing is something altogether different and must not be tolerated in any way, shape or form.  Let's hope the muckity mucks over at Vacheron do the right thing by giving credit (and payment) where it is do.  To behave with such impunity is a disservice to all members of the industry, manufacturers and consumers alike.

- Scott 
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mahesh
Jan 16, 2017
I like

the heliozentric...it has a humble appeal in its complication IMHO. Best, Mahesh.,

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elliot55
Jan 16, 2017
Mahesh, You Are, Of Course...

... Correct. Cheers, - Scott

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COUNT DE MONET
Jan 16, 2017
funny: I had the same thinking with the one of Grande Complication

It has got also a Martin Braun complication: a sunset und sunrise display that can be individualised (not fix, like usually). However, maybe Mr Braun got rich by selling this patent? Best Moritz

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elliot55
Jan 16, 2017
Well Moritz, If That Were Indeed The Case...

... I would have no problem at all. In fact, all that is truly required is to give credit when credit is due. These days, the bigger companies - be it Swatch to Richemont or Apple to Google - behave in a way to suggest it is better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. Or to put it another way, these massive, cash rich, lawyer laden conglomerates would rather tie a little guy up in court until he/she is bankrupt than to do the right thing and pay for the right to use an idea not of

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Clueless_Collector
Jan 16, 2017
That is why we have Patents and Lawyers. It's not copying or stealing when it's done...

legally Will you say all other brands making Tourbillons stole from Breguet or making Annual Calendars copy from Patek? It's so hard nowadays when many brands can make many complications. Also when watch makers job hop to another brand, skills and know-how transferred. Same problem with car models, so much resemblance. Rgds Raymond

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elliot55
Jan 16, 2017
Ray, I Completely Agree And One Could Argue...

... Any brand making a tourbillon has stolen from Breguet. But here's a key difference: Everyone knows Breguet invented the tourbillon. But not everyone knows it was Thomas Mudge, an English Horologist, who actually invented the Annual Calendar around 1755 or thereabouts. Patek filed a patent for its Perpetual Calendar in 1889, which provided a mechanism for the immediate jump of days, dates, months and lunar phases. That said, it is true Patek was awarded a patent for its Annual Calendar watch

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