Luxury Watch Pricing: Market Discussion
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Luxury Watch Pricing: Market Discussion

By Clueless_Collector · Feb 6, 2022 · 53 replies
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Clueless_Collector initiates a compelling discussion on the nuanced world of watch finishing, moving beyond the superficial 'how much' queries often seen on social media. His inquiry delves into the subjective value of hand-polishing and intricate movement decoration, questioning whether such artistry is a mark of independent watchmaking mastery or simply a matter of resource allocation. This article explores the community's diverse perspectives on what constitutes 'enough' finishing, from functional necessity to haute horlogerie artistry.

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Ok, title may be misleading but this “How much?” Is what I hate most on social media when I post a watch…I mean for those who ask this stupid question, you have time to surf the web and cannot just look it up? Why would they think I’m trying to sell 🤦🏻‍♂️🤬?”

The topic I like to discuss is “how much polishing and hand finishing do you want or need for your watches?”

Recently our “Indie+Macro King mj23” posted his amazing photos and one that caught my eye is his GF gear ⚙️…Link below:

www.watchprosite.com

I took some photos of 3 watches and see how they look.

First disclaimer is don’t compare my photo skills and quality, it’s not even close. “mj23” is top notch 👍🏻

What I noticed is the swirls on the GF stopped at a rim and mirror polished the edge, superb work. This is different from most brands where the polish swirls go all the way to the edge, obviously less work but still looks decent.

How much polishing is enough for your liking? I know is this something only independent watch brand can accomplish in terms of skills/specialty or it is just capacity and resource limiting?

If you ask any watch maker to do just polishing, will this skill something he/she can accomplish or is this only a Master/Artist that only GF/PD can do like Picasso/Leonardo DaVinci can do because of their talent?

How much … do you prefer your watch finishing?

For me…PP and Lange is good enough for me. 

I know getting a PD, RWS, RR, GF, KV, RG (not in order) are like purchasing an art 🖼 piece due to their scarcity but I don’t look at the polish parts, movements all the time. I buy a watch for the total package of function, looks and quality.

Who knows maybe some day I will change but for now, this is still my current state of mind.

“How much…is too much?”












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amanico
Feb 6, 2022
The best finishings / price ratio is....

This one.

CL
Clueless_Collector
Feb 6, 2022
Ah yes the MB Minerva …

But I heard bad stories of watches not working right for the first Blue versions. I wonder if the issue has not been resolved. Is this the highest you will go or you will go to the levels of GF/PD etc?

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amanico
Feb 6, 2022
It is a matter of price. At 25 K euros, you will pay what? 10 times, 20 times more for GF / PD? It won't be 10 or 20 times better finished.

CL
Clueless_Collector
Feb 6, 2022
I fully understand your point…and these are mechanical parts that may wear and tear.

HO
holdemchamp1225
Feb 6, 2022
Again, are we talking retail or secondary market values as a PD does not cost 10X thus Minerva at retail. So if you are talking secondary market values then the best finished movement for thr money ratio is below...

Nothing and I mean NOTHING comes close to the Parmigiani Ionica's movement in terms of finishing and architecture for the money. I paid 7500 euros for my WG Ionica so please show me a better finished movement than this below 25k - 30k 🤷‍♂️ Photo credit goes to Bruno for this RG Ionica and you mon ami for my WG Ionica below

CL
Clueless_Collector
Feb 6, 2022
Holy cow…no kidding Justin?!?!

And here I counted 8 inward angles which so many brands are kind of stingy to add. Even the prestigious PD didn’t have half as many! Wow, and is PF still the same company today? Just like Roger Dubius, are they still the same? If so, I need to take a close look at them. Thanks for sharing this beauty.

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