Luxury Watch Pricing: Market Discussion
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Luxury Watch Pricing: Market Discussion

By Clueless_Collector · Feb 6, 2022 · 53 replies
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Clueless_Collector initiates a compelling discussion on the nuanced world of watch finishing, moving beyond the superficial 'how much' queries often seen on social media. His inquiry delves into the subjective value of hand-polishing and intricate movement decoration, questioning whether such artistry is a mark of independent watchmaking mastery or simply a matter of resource allocation. This article explores the community's diverse perspectives on what constitutes 'enough' finishing, from functional necessity to haute horlogerie artistry.

Ok, title may be misleading but this “How much?” Is what I hate most on social media when I post a watch…I mean for those who ask this stupid question, you have time to surf the web and cannot just look it up? Why would they think I’m trying to sell 🤦🏻‍♂️🤬?”

The topic I like to discuss is “how much polishing and hand finishing do you want or need for your watches?”

Recently our “Indie+Macro King mj23” posted his amazing photos and one that caught my eye is his GF gear ⚙️…Link below:

www.watchprosite.com

I took some photos of 3 watches and see how they look.

First disclaimer is don’t compare my photo skills and quality, it’s not even close. “mj23” is top notch 👍🏻

What I noticed is the swirls on the GF stopped at a rim and mirror polished the edge, superb work. This is different from most brands where the polish swirls go all the way to the edge, obviously less work but still looks decent.

How much polishing is enough for your liking? I know is this something only independent watch brand can accomplish in terms of skills/specialty or it is just capacity and resource limiting?

If you ask any watch maker to do just polishing, will this skill something he/she can accomplish or is this only a Master/Artist that only GF/PD can do like Picasso/Leonardo DaVinci can do because of their talent?

How much … do you prefer your watch finishing?

For me…PP and Lange is good enough for me. 

I know getting a PD, RWS, RR, GF, KV, RG (not in order) are like purchasing an art 🖼 piece due to their scarcity but I don’t look at the polish parts, movements all the time. I buy a watch for the total package of function, looks and quality.

Who knows maybe some day I will change but for now, this is still my current state of mind.

“How much…is too much?”












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CL
Clueless_Collector
Feb 6, 2022

But I heard bad stories of watches not working right for the first Blue versions. I wonder if the issue has not been resolved. Is this the highest you will go or you will go to the levels of GF/PD etc?

BI
BigFatPauli
Feb 6, 2022

But what does good enough even mean to most? Their really are two types of finishing: decorative and functional. Only functional is really needed - the finishing of surfaces that actually contact one another. The rest is just fluff to make it pretty. Now, now, hold on. I can hear the clicky clack of people typing angry responses now: "Striping is designed to catch and hold debris keeping it away from moving parts!" "Chamfering is designed to preserve delicate edges to prevent chipping!" Yeah, ye

CL
Clueless_Collector
Feb 6, 2022

I am doing exactly that. In my industry, there are BKMs - Best Known Methods for certain way of doing things, I’m curious if there are BKMs in watch making, assembling parts, finishing and polishing? I’m guessing not because it is all the technical knowledge and free expression of art?

PE
penfriend
Feb 6, 2022

And having a bunch of MB Minerva I cannot confirm that there are a lot of quality issues compared to other brands. E.g. when I sent in my Lange for a maintenance to Glashütte it was returned with both hands floating on the dial when the AD unpacked the watch. Surely also something that does not happen too often and should not lead to avoidance of ALS. So only because there is a long thread of an unhappy repair affair on the blue MB 16.29 I would not care in case you consider one of their chronog

ZS
ZSHSZ
Feb 6, 2022

Not to distract from the importance of all the various finishes that the above artisans produce, but I can live without all that. As you said a Patek/Lange/VC/ Breguet( totally random ranking) level is good enough for me... But as with all other things, some like fast cars, others like comfort.🥂

CL
Clueless_Collector
Feb 6, 2022

I’m sure every brand has their stories, so are the top high end brands.

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