
In a perennial debate among haute horology enthusiasts, afaleh presents a compelling visual comparison between two titans: the A. Lange & Söhne Datograph (first generation) and the Patek Philippe Ref. 5170P. This article delves into afaleh's detailed photographic essay, which meticulously showcases the finishing of both movements, inviting the WatchProSite community to weigh in on the nuances of craftsmanship from these esteemed manufacturers. His work provides a valuable resource for collectors seeking to understand the subtle distinctions that define top-tier watchmaking.


Both are absolutely wonderful and unique in their own way. I have to admit, while I find the Lange to be a more pleasing view primarily due to the use of German silver and the hand engraved balance cock, beyond that I'm in the camp that says the two are fairly similarly finished. That is to say I don't think one blows the other out of the water here, both are very well finished. With all that said my personal taste has always favored Lange over PP ever since I got into watches, so there's no dou
Yes, makes sense why great craftspeople are starting / joining 'smaller' independents. It truly does bring joy that impressively talented parts and watchmakers are now able to produce the quality they know is possible beyond typical 'corporate standards'. Kari's upcoming releases should be crazy great I bet!
Keep in mind, Lange movement parts are made of German Silver which is a material where a higher polish is able to be achieved, compared to the rhodium plated brass movement parts that Geneve style manufacturers use. Thus, a comparison between the two isn't entirely fair, as German Silver will generally "look better" to most eyes. It's not necessarily indicative that the team at Patek Philippe has less skill or spends less time on the equivalent polish process of that specific part.
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