A. Lange & Söhne Lange 1 vs. 1815 Up/Down
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A. Lange & Söhne Lange 1 vs. 1815 Up/Down

By TheWindingStem · Nov 22, 2017 · 22 replies
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Hello, After "dipping my toes" in the serene ALS Lake with the Saxonia Thin 37mm, i am craving for more! Ive spent (wasted?) a great deal of time contemplating my next purchase and cannot seem to settle on what to aim for. Part of me feels that i need to own a Lange 1 as its the face of Lange's reem

Hello,

After "dipping my toes" in the serene ALS Lake with the Saxonia Thin 37mm, i am craving for more!
Ive spent (wasted?) a great deal of time contemplating my next purchase and cannot seem to settle on what to aim for.  Part of me feels that i need to own a Lange 1 as its the face of Lange's reemergence but i sometimes get drawn to the 1815 Up Down! borth are extremely different but are very Lange at the same time- does this make sense?

Given that funds are limited and unfortunately i do have other priorities in life, i won't be able to splurge on both for the time being and I'm aiming to purchase one to enjoy for  life  and naive in a couple of years i will add another piece. 

What draws me into the Lange 1 is the asymmetrical dial and the romantic outsize date- i cannot get over its association to the Dresden opera house and by extension, Opera. What i have reservations with is the movement. After being spoiled with a ratchet wheel, crown wheel and a click on top of my thin 37mm 3/4 plate I kinda feel like i might need to get used to a true 3/4 plate now. Of course this is no deal breaker and with 8 gold chatons and the associated blued screws, the movement kinda looks like a sky with stars!. I have been debating between the new Lange 1 MP and the regular L1, but i have come to the conclusion that I'm not a big fan of the blue used for the day/night disc and i will eventually grow tired of it. 

With the 1815 Up Down, the dial looks very old school with sub dials and the Arabic numerals look deliciously wet! love the railway track and the tiny flourishes  at 12-3-6-9. The blued hands are downright handsome and the movement has more bells and whistles exposed which is a plus! What I'm not so thrilled about is how much it resembles the 1815 Chronograph. I love that look but on the actual Chronograph and not the Up Down. Also, the stepped down bezel looks a bit odd in a Lange context and does not flow as smoothly as the case of the Saxonia or the L1. 


Any thoughts on this is appreciated! 

Moe











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About the A. Lange and Söhne Emil Lange Ref. 1815

The A. Lange & Söhne 1815 reference 206.032, introduced in 1999, is a notable example of the brand's commitment to traditional watchmaking principles. This model is part of the 1815 collection, which pays homage to the birth year of Ferdinand Adolph Lange and emphasizes classic design elements such as Arabic numerals and blued hands, drawing inspiration from historical Lange pocket watches. It represents a more understated and purist aesthetic compared to some of the brand's more complex offerings, focusing on fundamental horological excellence.

This particular reference features an 18k rose gold case measuring 36mm in diameter and 7.5mm in thickness. It houses the manually wound L941.1 caliber, visible through a sapphire crystal case back. The movement provides a power reserve of 45 hours. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal on the front, protecting a solid silver dial. Water resistance is rated at 30 meters, suitable for everyday wear but not for immersion.

The 1815 206.032 appeals to collectors who appreciate classical proportions and a focus on fundamental watchmaking without excessive complications. Its smaller case size reflects a more traditional approach to men's wristwatches, making it a desirable piece for those seeking a discreet yet highly refined timepiece. The combination of rose gold and a silver dial offers a warm and legible presentation, consistent with the collection's historical inspirations.

Specifications

Caliber
L941.1
Case
18k rose gold
Diameter
36mm
Dial
Silver
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire
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bloomy201
Nov 22, 2017

Hi, My thoughts are that the Lange 1 has the outsized date which to me is a true Lange iconic aspect of their designs. I wouldn't want 2 Lange watches yet have no date on either. Also as far as movement side vs dial side of a watch, the likelihood is that shortcomings on the dial side will annoy you more than shortcomings on the movement side. I have a datograph and a Lange 1 and while obviously the movements are superb, I spend 95% of the time looking at the dial side of the watches. Regards Mi

CR
CR
Nov 22, 2017

Because funds are limited, I'd suggest you seriously consider preowned (vs. new). You can buy a preowned Lange 1 (sans moonphase) PLUS a preowned 1815 Up/Down for about the same price as a new Lange 1. In addition, being open to the preowned market would also allow you to consider older 1815 Up/Down models that don't have the stepped bezel, as well as Lange 1 moonphase models that don't have the new day/night disc. You may find the older moonphase discs to be more attractive. You wouldn't be alo

TH
TheWindingStem
Nov 22, 2017

i agree - one cannot have two Lange's without at least one having the iconic outsize date is. i think the movement is less of an issue and if we are speaking strictly dials, id choose the L1 over the 1815.

TH
TheWindingStem
Nov 22, 2017

The L1 i am interested in is with the new L121.1 movement. i have a thing for instantaneous date change! i might be open to buy one second-hand but i haven't a clue where to look. Also, I'm not interested in owning both watches.

SK
skyeriding
Nov 22, 2017

Both are nice watches - each with their own points to note. Here's a movement-nerdy take on both: Lange 1: Has freesprung balance. Hence, no balance timing screws for poising which some may miss as they find it more traditional and aesthetically pleasing. The swan neck is not a "regulator", but is for beat adjustment which is also a more modern take of things. I personally wished it was a more classic, regulator design like the old L1... Compared to the traditional Lange 1, as you know it has in

TH
TheWindingStem
Nov 22, 2017

You have given me a lot to think of- i very much appreciate your detailed response my friend! i too have a preference for a traditional screwed balance over the free sprung but thats not a deal breaker. Personally though, the movement on the 1815 U/D looks very busy compared to the Saxonia Thin which in my opinion has the best looking 3/4 plate. Have you had any experience with the winding of each? i read some posts of people saying the 1815 winding experience is far from what is expected of a L

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