Jaeger 20 ATM Vintage Diver Review
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Jaeger 20 ATM Vintage Diver Review

By amanico · Dec 12, 2011 · 38 replies
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Amanico presents an in-depth review of the elusive Jaeger 20 ATM, a vintage diving watch that stands out in the Jaeger-LeCoultre collecting landscape. This piece delves into the watch's unique characteristics, including its smaller 37mm case, distinctive dial, and the surprising use of an outsourced movement, shedding light on its origins at the Jaeger Levallois-Perret factory.

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When you're collecting JLC Vintage Diving watches, you sometimes fall on some strange watches.

The Polaris II is a perfect example of a strange Vintage JLC with an uncommon shaped case.

The Jaeger 20 ATM is another one.

When JLC used to release some big Diving watches ( 37 x 38, 39, 40, 42 and 43 mm ), the 37 mm case of this Jaeger makes it look really small.

Its special dial, and the original hands are another specificity, and I don't even mention the movement, which is here outsourced.

Mysterious, too, because we rarely see it posted here and there.

When I asked the Manufacture to provide me some informations, I was answered that it wasn't made by JLC in Swizerland, but at the Jaeger Levallois - Perret ( near Paris ) factory, at the end of the sixties, early 70ies, for the French Market.

Let's see all these points in the details.

1/ The Case:

A conventional round case, with a sportive allure.

Big unsigned crow, large and angular lugs ( 19 mm distance between the lugs ) which look a bit like those of the Chrono Shark, small but thick, a bit ..bulky.





As you can see, the stainless steel case is entirely polished, at the exception of the center part of the screw in domed case back, which is brushed.



The inside part of the case back is not signed:



Small, with its 37 mm case, still very pleasant to wear:



2/ The dial.

There is much to say about it, as that's what makes this watch so special.

If I had to choose only one picture, it would be this macro, as it perfectly sums the character of the Jaeger 20 ATM:



Big round greenish 5 minutes luminous indexes, rectangular and thin at 3 and 9, contrasting with gilt rectangular non luminous indexes, oversized luminous " 12 ", big arrow minute hand, and the top of the second hand shaped as a traffic light, which we also see on some Vintage Seiko Divers.

The dial is signed Jaeger, and there is no " Swiss made " indication at the bottom of the dial.



There is, also, a red 24 hours scale at the center on the dial.

The turning bezel is glossy, with silver indexes and numbers, graduated each minute.





As you can suspect from these last pictures, the plexy is impressively domed, giving the watch dome distorsion on the dial, but a very pleasant warmth:

You don't believe me?

Here you are!



3/ Movement:

The interesting thing is that this Diving Watch is one of the very few to not house an in house movement.

But, on another side, Jaeger weren't known to use JLC movements, their purpose being to produce instruments, tools.

For their Chronos, Jaeger used ( like JLC, by the way ) Universal Genève ( Cal 285 ) or Valjoux ( Cal 72 ) movements.

In this Diving watch, Jaeger used...An ETA movement, the Cal 2783, a 17 jewels automatic movement, beating at 21600 Alternances Per Hour, offering an autonomy of 47 hours, and featuring a date.







As you can see, the finish and the decoration are almost close to zero, but is that so important for a toolwatch?

4/ Conclusion and general thoughts:

Let's say it straight, the Jaeger 20 ATM is not a watch which immediately comes to mind when you pay some attention or interest to Vintage JLC Diving watches.

This is not a JLC, nor a Lecoultre, but a Jaeger, which is not a negative point.

It certainly plays on another league, and on another register, too.

Here, the originality is not on the technical / mechanical ground, it is a toolwatch which needs nor use no sophisitication.

The originality is rather " aesthetical ".

This specificity was shared by other brands such as Seiko, Omega, for example, and obviously, the Jaeger 20 ATM borrowed some elements of Design proper to this era.

Nonetheless, this relatively small watch has a strong an uncommon look, far from the JLC Diving Timekeepers of the moment.

If we focus on the particular minute hand of the Navy SEALs Alarm, may be consider it as a reminder of the Jaeger 20 ATM?







Certainly not the sexiest Vintage, but a curious, intriguing, and atypical one!

Best to all,

Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2011-12-12 14:42:18 This message has been edited by amanico on 2011-12-15 04:55:20

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EdwardL
Dec 12, 2011
37mm will do for me....

Really loved the traffic signal second hands. Thanks for the review. Best Ed

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amanico
Dec 13, 2011
Some funny elements of design, indeed. Thanks, Edward! [nt]

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fernando
Dec 12, 2011
An interesting watch Nicolas!

Full of design detail and quite unique. I really like that super dome plexi! I take it you discovered this beauty in some back alley in Paris? Looks like it's in excellent condition for a watch of this era. Big congrats & thanks for sharing - we don't often see something so unusual. fernando

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amanico
Dec 13, 2011
Almost N.O.S condition, Fernando.

A friend of mine wanted to sell it, I was there, at the right place, at the right moment. Sometimes, it can happen to me, too. Well, I have it for almost two years, now, but I've hidden it for a while. When you develop a Vintage JLC Diving thema, this one is mandatory, I think. The plexy, superdomed, the minute hand, so special ,these green accents, here and there, there are a lot of things which are maybe a bit too much, but so characteristic! Best, my friend. Nicolas.

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fadaman
Dec 12, 2011
Very interesting watch

Wow Nicolas, I really like this one. The compact size, crude character, but overall very refined look with endearing dial features. This period of watchmaking turned out such creativity in design and function. What do you think the luminous material would be on this watch? The green is reminiscent of radium from the 50's and 60's, as opposed to the warmer yellowish tones offered by tritium. Any ideas?

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amanico
Dec 13, 2011
I appreciate much more the design form the 50ies, which is timeless, IMO.

As for the luminous material, I'd say Tritium... Radium was over, at this time, and Luminova wasn't still there. Best, Nicolas.

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