IWC In-House vs. ETA Movement Accuracy Debate
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IWC In-House vs. ETA Movement Accuracy Debate

By ripper444 · Aug 8, 2019 · 26 replies
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ripper444 shares his candid experiences with IWC's in-house movements, sparking a discussion about accuracy and reliability compared to ETA-based calibers. His decision to trade an in-house chronograph for a 'Le Petit Prince' edition with a Valjoux 7750-based movement highlights a critical debate among collectors regarding movement provenance versus real-world performance.

So I am going to stick with my personal experiences and they are that IWC in house movements are just not accurate. I have owned in some form or another a watch from almost all their lines and the only reliable/accurate ones are the modified ETA versions.

I experienced both the Mark spitfire and the current Chrono version and can say both were horrible in time keeping. The Chrono version went upwards of +12 a day and the little Mark would lose -10/12 while the power reserve was not at 100%. I also experienced the Chrono hand jumping back then forward. Or had to press the Chrono pusher 2 time before it started. It was intermittent but in either case I didn’t want to deal with warranty work. The in house offered no tangible benefit.

So I decided to trade my Chrono in and got the le petite prince.

I like the look of both equally. Size wise it’s not too much of a difference and both are around same thickness

What are your thoughts? Which do you prefer? Which movement do you like?












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reintitan
Aug 8, 2019

But I do have these modern pilot's watches from IWC with Sellita-based no-date movements and they keep chronometer time. +1s to +2s per day. I also have a vintage Ingenieur ref. 666 from the late 1950s with the in-house cal. 853 which needs a service so I can't really qualify it as a bad timekeeper until it gets serviced. But vintage IWC in-house movements like the cal. 853 and cal. 89 are probably in a different league from these new movements. They were designed and built back when IWC was tru

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ektaylor
Aug 8, 2019

I have two IWCs with in-house movements, 8-day manual wind and chronograph classic, both Portuguisers. Not sure how relevant these are to your experience, but both keep good time although they’re both tuned to run fast, ~+5 seconds per day. The chronograph does decay significantly near the end of its power reserve, but I don’t think that’s unusual, unless you’ve been spoiled by watches with Breguet overcoils. Also, in my experience with (3) 7750-based IWCs, although they can be tuned to run very

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ripper444
Aug 8, 2019

I have had a few big pilots including the new ones. A few yacht clubs. Both new spitfires. I think Richmond group ruined their brands by making them share generic “in house” Calibers. I’m happy with Valjoux 7750 in this one!

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LiftAngle51
Aug 8, 2019

I have no cosc watches, and i am happy about theire acuracy.

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Ron_W
Aug 8, 2019

My 70 year old Valj 22 is Much smoother. But i sure loved that blue dial !

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ektaylor
Aug 8, 2019

You could push the crown in to set the time and the hands would t budge. Great for people like me who need their minute hands to align perfectly with markers when the seconds hand reaches 12 o’clock. The jump is still very small, but there’s a bit more give now.

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