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F.P. Journe Second-Hand Private Sale Guide

By Lankysudanese · Aug 26, 2023 · 39 replies
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Lankysudanese's inquiry into purchasing a pre-owned F.P. Journe Chronomètre Souverain from a private seller highlights the critical considerations for collectors navigating the secondary market for high horology. His detailed questions about warranty transferability, complete packaging, and provenance resonate with anyone seeking to ensure authenticity and value in a significant luxury watch acquisition. This discussion provides invaluable insights for both seasoned and new collectors contemplating similar purchases.

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My sincere apologies that my only two posts in the Journe forum are about soliciting advice, but buying FPJ pieces from boutiques/ADs is hard to achieve, and this remains such a wonderful forum where fellow collectors help each other

I have a few questions that I’d like to solicit responses/advice for 
1. Are the FP Journe manufacturer warranties (especially the 3rd year warranty extension for registering the watch online) transferrable?
2. What would be a situation in which a new watch is delivered without the small accompanying parts (polishing cloth, leather wallet for warranty card, USB key)? Do AD’s frequently run out of these things?
3. Has FP Journe moved away from providing the large square box with cushion to the rectangular flat travel case? 

I located an example of what I’m looking for (Platinum Chronometre Souverain) from a local collector who is selling to make way for something else. The watch itself is in good condition. It’s a single owner piece (he’s the original buyer) and he has it under warranty for another 14 months (with an email from Journe confirming that he’s the original buyer and the warranty extension). However, it comes on the smaller rectangular travel case, and without the leather wallet or USB key or polishing cloth. The warranty card is dated and has an inscription of the AD (not a boutique) but the stamp is smudged (which happens).  

This will be my second second-hand watch purchase in my collecting career, and the first one ended up leaving a bad taste bc the seller (a professional dealer) photoshopped the watch ad to hide scratches 

Am I just being too neurotic/picky? I’m paying above retail, and I am not independently-wealthy, so I like my luxury items to be as complete-package as possible?

What would you do?




How the watch is being offered?

Thanks again

Hussam

About the F.P. Journe Chronomètre Souverain Ref. chronometre

The F.P. Journe Chronomètre Souverain represents the foundational timepiece within the brand's Souveraine collection. This reference demonstrates the manufacture's approach to precision timekeeping through manual winding mechanics, positioned as a core offering in F.P. Journe's lineup.

The 40mm case is executed in 18k rose gold with a fixed bezel configuration. A sapphire crystal protects the silver dial, while the manual-winding caliber 1304 movement provides an 80-hour power reserve. The timepiece features 30-meter water resistance and is paired with a leather strap. Production commenced in 2000.

This reference appeals to collectors seeking F.P. Journe's mechanical execution in a fundamental three-hand configuration. The substantial power reserve and manual winding caliber position this model for enthusiasts who appreciate traditional watchmaking approaches within the Souveraine series framework.

Specifications

Caliber
1304
Case
18k Rose Gold
Diameter
40 mm
Dial
Silver
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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Spangles - Dr. Tabby
Aug 26, 2023
I would run.

The seller isn't telling you a lot if he says this is a new watch but sold without the usual things a new watch comes with. I have a cb from the first year of production and it came with similar box and accoutrements to the CS you are looking at. The two other Journes I bought from 5 or so years back came with full large wooden box and everything. FPJ is moving to even more upscale than it already was, I can't see them cutting back. Maybe other folks here can confirm.

LA
Lankysudanese
Aug 26, 2023
Thanks for the prompt response.

I’m now confirming the provenance with Journe HQ, and I assume it’ll check out just fine. But even if it does, I’m very particular about getting the full package (with all ‘accoutrements’) and this may just erk me and ruin the entire ownership experience. I’m guessing you never asked if the warranty is transferable, and I hope that you never end up needing to sell your watches. But I may end up in a situation where I need to sell, and I don’t want to end up having to do a lot of explaining Have

SP
Spangles - Dr. Tabby
Aug 27, 2023
If you have any chance of selling, make 100% sure you have a full set.

I don't remember about the warranty, so I didn't comment there, my apologies.

LA
Lankysudanese
Aug 27, 2023
Excellent advice.

As an FYI for another people wondering the same question: the warranty (and warranty extension) are transferrable

HO
hora12reborn
Aug 26, 2023
I will be not of great help as my Journe purchase dates back to 2010. There was no USB card at the time, The warranty card was in a simple plastic folder but there was a small cloth.

If the watch is in good condition and keeps time accurately, the pricing fair, having the box, warranty card and some papers, it already makes a quite good package.

LA
Lankysudanese
Aug 26, 2023
I buy to own and enjoy, as opposed to flipping.

That being said, life is unpredictable and tastes change; I’d hate to be in a position where I have a lot of explaining to do Besides, that large wooden box is just so so nice 😍

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