The Tortue and the Hare (and a question)

Sep 11, 2019,14:55 PM

I am the very lucky new owner of this amazing Cartier (my first Cartier). It was bought on an impulse--which is not my usual way. I'm usually slow, like a tortoise, in choosing a watch, but I tried this one on and, quick as a jackrabbit, that was it: I bought the Tortue.

Now here's my question. I like to change straps on my watches. But this is the first watch I've ever owned that has a screw standing between me and the spring bar. My question is, are Cartier (especially, Cartier Collection Privee) screws made of gold, or something harder?

If the screwhead is gold, I am not even going to try it. I'll let the local watchmaker do the strap changes for me. But if it isn't, I might give it a try myself.

Any knowledge, any advice?



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Thank you! [nt]

 By: blau : September 11th, 2019-19:39

Very nice

 By: ChristianDK : September 11th, 2019-15:14
i have come close several times to pulling the trigger on this piece. The back story is also quite nice ๐Ÿ‘

Yes, exactly.

 By: ChristianDK : September 11th, 2019-22:21
A very cool team ๐Ÿ˜‰

Just a guess, but I think they will be gold, if it was a harder material then the case thread would wear faster which is not a good thing. My white gold Breguet has gold screws for the same

 By: templetowers : September 11th, 2019-15:14
reason & they are a real pain when strap changing as they can be damaged easily - I would double check & leave it to Cartier. Wonderful watch BTW

Too late!

 By: blau : September 11th, 2019-19:41
I had the shop change the strap to the one pictured here when I bought it.

A Beautiful watch! [nt]

 By: Sportster : September 11th, 2019-15:30

I would like to make two suggestions

 By: mpg13 : September 11th, 2019-15:48
First if you want to change the strap change it to something you like long term. Frequent disassembly and reassembly of soft screws and or a soft case is a bad idea. Second make sure the watchmaker who does it for you has no problem shaping a screwdriver ... 

Thanks, that's helpful.

 By: blau : September 11th, 2019-19:46
That probably means I should stick with this strap for a while--I like the combo a lot. I thought it might be fun to switch it between this lighter brown ostrich and a darker brown alligator, but if I'm going to stick with one for a while, the right one i... 

A BiG FAN of this timepiece. Uniquely Cartier, perfect size, so classy. Just a win, win, win. Heartiest congratulations! (And I agree, be exceedingly careful with your choice of

 By: halgedahl : September 11th, 2019-16:50
watchmaker. It's simply too perfect as it is. You will find someone; there is no hurry. End of sermon! FH

Thanks so much!

 By: blau : September 11th, 2019-19:47
I really appreciate everyone's enthusiasm (and I VERY MUCH share it)

Lovely shots, thank you!

 By: blau : September 14th, 2019-11:38
Looks pretty good on the dark brown gator, too.

The screws are 18K, have it done at Cartier or a good AD

 By: Geo : September 11th, 2019-23:12
Congratulations the Tortue and especially this size Mono Poussoir is a fantastic watch. Enjoy your watch and when the time comes that it needs service, make sure to go to an excellent watchmaker or the Cartier BTQ. GEO

Thanks for letting me know!

 By: blau : September 12th, 2019-07:47
Fortunately I live near both a Cartier Boutique and an excellent independent watchmaker. To be honest, I have more trust in the watchmaker than I do in the boutique.

Beautiful Tortue, congratulations.

 By: VMM : September 12th, 2019-03:01
My fav together with the 8 days big date. Enjoy it. Vte

take the time

 By: Weems@8 : September 12th, 2019-11:31
Hasitate. I am the same. I buy never on impuls. Study the lugs if i can change straps by myself. I study the movement. Study the price. Learning about a brand. I own no Cartier, but i saw serveral Cartiers who are nice to see. This model the Santos 100XL ... 

Congrats an absolute marvel quite underrated though +

 By: montres1 : September 13th, 2019-03:00
I don't know how it looks like at the screws level, but if you like changing you could maybe replace the screws (and keep them aside !) by regular spring bars in order to change more easily and often ? Don't hit me I don't know whether it is feasible or n... 

Late reply, but just wanted to let you know you were right!

 By: blau : May 29th, 2020-04:00
I replaced the screw bars with regular spring bars and now change straps regularly. Turned out to be no problem at all!


 By: chikai168 : October 30th, 2019-03:17
That is a beautiful and very unique piece. So what sort of screwdrivers would jewellers use for gold screws? BW, Chi Kai

Congrats !

 By: rondv22 : November 4th, 2019-13:28
One of the most beautiful Cartier's out there ! Enjoy !

What a gorgeous monopusher you got there!

 By: hackingseconds : May 29th, 2020-21:02
I have personally changed the straps on my Tortue a couple of times and never wondered what material the screws are made of. I stopped changing my straps lately because when I asked the boutique for new screws, they insisted on taking my watch in (not for...  


 By: blau : May 30th, 2020-04:14
You do not see that Tortue with the 8-day JLC movement very often! And it looks (and sounds) like you've been getting thorough enjoyment out of that wonderful watch! I have the original (gold) screw bars in a little baggie now in the Cartier box, and I'm ... 

I just tried to change the strap on mine

 By: Watchclog : November 20th, 2020-10:00
Its a nightmare as the screws won't move and they are gold so i don't want to force it!


 By: blau : November 20th, 2020-10:06
As you might see upthread, I left that to a professional, and now use a set of regular spring bars in place of the gold screwed bars.

Thatโ€™s good advice!

 By: Watchclog : November 20th, 2020-11:04
Will definitely replace them with spring bars when I find someone who can remove the bars. Many thanks