A quick view on the new Breguet Type XXI Flyback Chronograph 3815 Ti.

Jun 17, 2021,09:37 AM
 

Here is the new Type XXI from Breguet, in titanium, with two different dials, each of them limited to 250 pieces. 


The Green: 



The Orange: 



Here, you have a 42 mm case, in titanium, which is 42 mm big, and 15, 2 mm high. While I love the choice of titanium for that kind of watch which is a light material, very pleasant to wear, I am more circumspect about the thickness, first, and also about the size, which, per se is not too big, but when you compare it to the movement size, you may rightly think it is too small for such a watch. 

The evidence? Look at the location of the sub dials ( small seconds and hours ). They are very  ( too? ) centered. 

Another evidence? The picture of the case back: 





The movement is nicely decorated, but seems a bit too lost in such a case. A solid case back would have been a better option, probably. 

But this is something we already noticed with the former versions of the Type XXI. 

Some more thoughts about the dials, now. According to Breguet, they wanted to play the sporty card with such colors. Vivid, they are, in green and in orange. You will appreciate the circular finishings of the sub dials, a detail we also have in the Type XX, and the bigger hour counter, which is in the DNA of the Type XX, even if traditionally, the Type XX had an oversized minute counter. 

Here, for the comparison, a photo of my beloved Type XX Salmon: 



And the famous Type XX CEV 1: 



To be complete, I regret the presence of the date, as often... The dial would have been purer without, in my very biased opinion. I like the design of the turning bezel, which goes with the dial very well.


The movement is the Cal 582 Q/A, with silicon escapement and balance spring offering a power reserve of 48 hours. It offers the following functions: Central Seconds and Minutes fly back chronograph, small seconds, 24 hours chronograph, and the date. It is, as you could notice, an automatic movement. 

Is this a watch for us, Type XX lovers? I am not sure of that. We are waiting for a no date Type XX, with a smaller case around 39 / 40 mm, a manual winding movement. So this one doesn't qualify, at least for us. 

But for a younger audience, these Type XXI may have their fans. 







What do you think? 

Best,

Nicolas


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I like the green version better than the orange…

 
 By: shortys home : June 17th, 2021-10:11
… and I am not arguing the size of movement/case and the date. I however think that the numerals are slightly too big with the latest Type XXI versions, with these two the signature should have been split up with Breguet being in the top half and Retour e... 

And all along, I thought these were your photos!😜

 
 By: Mach : June 17th, 2021-12:03
I’m also a fan of the green.

😂

 
 By: shortys home : June 17th, 2021-12:39

I agree that it is too big and thick. Can't wait for the smaller XX with 38-39 mm

 
 By: hoseachandra : June 17th, 2021-10:34
Manual winding or auto no problem for me. And if possible the water resistant can achieve 100 mtr.

Definitely not for me.

 
 By: jlux : June 17th, 2021-12:10
I also do see the small movement/large case issue in the placement of the sub-dials. I am still waiting for a regular version close to the 2019 Only Watch Type XX.

Same for me.

 
 By: amanico : June 17th, 2021-12:12

They must have got the memo late

 
 By: Arronax : June 17th, 2021-12:36
It's the dials that are supposed to be green A big miss in my view but hopefully they will rectify in due course. Makes me even happier I went for the airain reissue.

I was hoping for a reissue of the Type XX.

 
 By: Uncle Chico : June 17th, 2021-13:01
I'm less of a fan of the Type XXI primarily because I like the look of the polished bezel on the Type XX and the omission of the date. For some reason the numeral colors seem too un-Breguet for me.

I do hope so.

 
 By: amanico : June 18th, 2021-08:59

Prey or pray? :))))

 
 By: amanico : June 18th, 2021-09:56

Both work!

 
 By: amanico : June 18th, 2021-15:10

I like the Ref. 3817 more.

 
 By: quattro98 : June 17th, 2021-13:49
I’d like to see the 3817 in titanium. The lack of hour totalizer makes the new models less attractive. I’m ok with both bezel designs.

+1

 
 By: amanico : June 17th, 2021-14:54

Excellent. A beauty!

 
 By: amanico : June 24th, 2021-21:28

Me too, amico. ;)

 
 By: amanico : June 17th, 2021-18:02

My son tried it …

 
 By: Horology75 : June 17th, 2021-17:56
...  

And what did he think?

 
 By: amanico : June 17th, 2021-18:03

Merci, mon ami.

 
 By: amanico : June 17th, 2021-18:24

Very unimpressive how Breguet doesn’t live up to its own standards…

 
 By: LX (Alex) : June 17th, 2021-18:07
A cam-operated and largely machine finished chronograph movement in a very thick (15.2 mm) case is a bit disappointing from a brand like Breguet. They should learn from their Swatch Group sister brand Blancpain. If Breguet goes back to the drawing board a... 

When is it expected?

 
 By: LX (Alex) : June 17th, 2021-19:17

Correct.

 
 By: amanico : June 18th, 2021-20:56

LOL, Geo!

 
 By: amanico : June 18th, 2021-08:42

Horrible

 
 By: Bolito : June 17th, 2021-19:58
Sad to see sich a brand dying step by step.

Here we totally agree.

 
 By: amanico : June 17th, 2021-21:44

As usual 😉

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : June 17th, 2021-21:46

;)

 
 By: amanico : June 17th, 2021-21:47

Too bad they did not do that!

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : June 19th, 2021-13:48

Agree at every point

 
 By: Gelato Monster : June 18th, 2021-00:41
Your vintage is more perfect. You add ton of patina and charm they become magnetically awesome

😁

 
 By: Gelato Monster : June 18th, 2021-14:28

Alas...

 
 By: amanico : June 18th, 2021-15:10

Incorporating all your suggestion

 
 By: Gelato Monster : June 18th, 2021-00:42
I would choose orange

Missed opportunity

 
 By: Time to watch : June 18th, 2021-04:28
Imho, no thanks. Previous versions shine in comparison.

Thanks, Time to Watch.

 
 By: amanico : June 18th, 2021-07:39

Not bad. For me to jump though

 
 By: emcquillan : June 18th, 2021-04:33
I would have preferred smaller numerals and the subdials to have equal diameter (so no cut off numerals), and yes no date, a slimmer case and a manual wind would be perfect. Still a handsome watch as is.

My thoughts......

 
 By: DouglasM : June 18th, 2021-18:48
I agree with the movement to case ratio, this movement should be in a 40mm watch, and nothing larger. The biggest issue I have is based on experience. I had the previous Type XXI in titanium, with the really cool applied steel or Ti numerals. I got rid of... 

Not a fan

 
 By: Bader : June 21st, 2021-13:25
Numerals look cheap as does the whole dial imho. Would much rather see homage versions similar to the originals. Breguet should check out some Longines (Military 6b/159) and IWC (mark XII) homage pieces.

close but no cigar

 
 By: DaMctosh : August 4th, 2021-16:15