Updates which he doesn't credit or call out. Changing history, just like Rolex 😂

Sep 25, 2023,23:01 PM

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This was already posted a few weeks ago...

 By: India Whiskey Charlie : September 25th, 2023-15:42

super boring article with nothing interesting 🤭this year that year who cares?

 By: christianch : September 25th, 2023-17:19
We shouldn't promote these blog speculations and hyper-boring negative research here. Love not hate.

Glad that it's not just me

 By: Dchang81 : September 25th, 2023-18:12


 By: christianch : September 25th, 2023-20:58

Well I do care because of what is written turns out to be true Blancpain has engaged in false advertising.

 By: LX (Alex) : September 25th, 2023-19:49
Be assured that this comes from someone who likes the brand and wants them to succeed but equally feels misled into a purchaese. ...  

Well said, the truth (whatever it may be) does matter.

 By: GWIS : September 25th, 2023-20:12
In this particular case, Blancpain make some great looking watches but if they are going to market based on their history then I want that history to be correct. All the best, Jon

When I bought my watch I was never told about the launch year ..if you want to be picky Blancpain 1735 is

 By: christianch : September 25th, 2023-21:08
also relative as the company didn't exist for many years but is it false advertising? I am not a specialist in the particular field of law, but as a lawyer I don't really see an issue. The historical launch of a model (which is anyway debatable) has no im... 

Regarding Omega…

 By: LX (Alex) : September 25th, 2023-22:23

did you read the article? Omega is a victim of a fraud and this is why they also requested the opening of a criminal case...

 By: christianch : September 25th, 2023-22:41
it is certainly not the case of Swatch bidding just to inflate the prices

I wish to disagree that it is not important who released what first.

 By: LX (Alex) : September 26th, 2023-03:20
As a buyer of the new titanium FF Bathyscaphe that I bought from my AD in Zurich and in consideration of the outstanding quality and movement finishing of the watch (better than what I have seen in the sub-50k CHF range at Patek or Vacheron) AS WELL AS th... 

There are many things to put into perspective here…

 By: shortys home : September 26th, 2023-06:43
… first: Biver and his statements at the time. A marketing genius, but one who contradicted himself more often than you could count. He wasn’t interested in Blancpain‘s history at all. But others were. The words of those who were present at the time (Jean... 

The more important question is, are you getting the Act 3??

 By: K-Lo : September 26th, 2023-06:52
NY Boutique wants me to put down a full deposit but can't guarantee that I would get one.... Feel free to PM if I am talking to the wrong boutique or AD! lol

thanks for providing some context! First of all congratulations for your wondeful watch..

 By: christianch : September 26th, 2023-07:35
The 🔥tone of my messages, for which I apologise if I offended you or anyone, was certainly not toward you but toward this article. You can see that is not a serious investigation from the cover photo of pinocchio. Finding some historical documents, displa... 

Sigh. Once again,

 By: Gwai : September 26th, 2023-13:08
"launched in 1953" is unambiguous enough. And it is either right or wrong. Apparently it is the latter. Cheers Marc

Nice Bathyscape 👏mislead by the launch year of the FF ? the article is so badly written that is even hard

 By: christianch : September 25th, 2023-21:02
to full comprehend the issue. But here is a give away "If you found yourself in a bidding war over a Fifty Fathoms, chances are you were bidding against someone at Swatch Group who was using multiple accounts to make the watch appear more popular than it ... 

You are entitled to your opinion but the article is logical and seems well-researched.

 By: LX (Alex) : September 25th, 2023-21:04
It is especially interesting because Blancpain, through one of their employees publicly insinuates that Rolex took their idea. That was stated in a lecture at the Horological Society of New York a few years ago. Perhaps it’s not for you to decide on this ... 

of course we can agree to disagree but is clear that the article as the intention to discredit blancpain

 By: christianch : September 25th, 2023-21:11
the cover and the allegations that Swatch group would be bidding on their own brand to raise the prices... As you know Blancpain is a resurrected brand so I wouldn't waste too much time in historical details which play no role today ...beside wanting to m... 

I'd be careful what you wish for....

 By: j.jota : September 25th, 2023-21:20
it has always been inferred and strongly suggested through Rolex advertising that their watch was the first to summit Everest, but through 'logical' and 'well-researched' effort this has proven to not be the case after all... www.outdoorjournal.co... 

Didn’t Panerai “invent” the dive watch in the 1930s?

 By: TheMadDruid : September 25th, 2023-22:00
With Rolex movements Panerai equipped the Italian marine divers with watches that were used in WWII.

and of course the U.S. Navy had been using canteen watches for many years during WWII as well....

 By: j.jota : September 25th, 2023-22:45
I think the current 'controversy' is centered around the development of the rotating bezel... somehow a person simply cannot dive with it ;-)

My friend Gary, SEAL “plank owner” from the first group of 1961 wore canteen watches

 By: cazalea : September 25th, 2023-23:23
Alternatively with his Rolex and a couple cheaper watches. This one is quartz but the look is the same, he couldn’t deal with the crown - the arm scars are real. Mike ...  

In another forum there is a locked thread where the article goes under peer review with the author responding

 By: dte2 : September 26th, 2023-00:16
A bit scathing in tone but definitely worth a look. The article bucks under some scrutinity.

Good to know, thank you!

 By: LX (Alex) : September 26th, 2023-00:23

👏 well said

 By: christianch : September 25th, 2023-20:58

Omega's Marine was introduced . . .

 By: Dr No : September 25th, 2023-23:46
. . . in 1932. Just sayin'. While I don't have an iron in this fire, the tenor of the article is cause for comment. Jeff is not just a watch aficionado, but also a successful attorney. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's watching this (and other intern... 

On his website he refers to himself as having studied architecture and industrial design before branching into graphic design/advertising.

 By: LX (Alex) : September 26th, 2023-03:31
Either way, I am sure he must have done his research always keeping in mind not to expose to a lawsuit from Blancpain and the Swatch Group.

Every single article on Jose's website is pro-Rolex and any coverage of other brands is defamatory

 By: j.jota : September 26th, 2023-05:21
he's a Rolex fanboy with good graphic design skills, but hardly a reasonably credible investigative researcher... his bias is glaring.

Interesting that in this thread we have avowed Blancpain fanboys and references to die-hard Blancpain fanboys (Kingston, et al.)

 By: vitalsigns : September 26th, 2023-13:33
dismissing a Rolex fanboy for being a Rolex fanboy and as evidence of ulterior motives that supposedly override the evidence presented. I think both sides should stick to the facts and evidence. If you think Perezscope's view can be colored by his biases,... 

Thanks, John, for the . . .

 By: Dr No : September 26th, 2023-17:52
. . . words of wisdom. Much appreciated. Art


 By: TheMadDruid : September 26th, 2023-19:53

I think none of us should be fanboys. For the brands it’s business - nothing else.

 By: LX (Alex) : September 26th, 2023-23:49
You may love the brand but the brand doesn’t love you back.

I agree, and wish that could be true, but fanboy creation seems inevitable.

 By: vitalsigns : September 27th, 2023-14:21
A passionate brand fan should nevertheless try to be objective. For sure the brands don't love you back the way we love brands. A passionate collector loves a brand like an envisioned soul mate. A brand loves a collector more like an -- ahem -- "working w...