*** Cartier

Jan 31, 2009,21:48 PM
 

 

Cartier’s collection this year is typical in the fact that its entry- and mid-level stuff will likely be commercial hits. But it is atypical because its haute horlogerie watches are numerous and are a declaration of Cartier’s goals to push itself upmarket in a serious way – remember that Cartier is a billion dollar brand.

 

We’ll start with the simple stuff. Cartier has unveiled a bigger Bagnoire for men. Surprisingly it does not look feminine, despite the shape and the fact that the Bagnoire was previously for ladies. Unusually the enlarged watch looks as elegant as the original and would be an excellent black tie timepiece. It does however remind me of the Patek Philippe Ellipse, which I also think is a great formal dress watch.

 


Men's Bagnoire rose gold 

 


 


 


 


Men's Bagnoire white gold 

 

The ladies’ Bagnoire is quartz while the new men’s version is manual-wind with a Piaget cal. 430P movement.

 


Ladies' Bagnoire 

 

The new men's Bagnoire is not part of the Collection Privée Cartier Paris (CPCP) though. I was told the CPCP line will eventually be discontinued, more on that later when we get to the high horology watches further down.

 

The Ballon Bleu was launched in 2007 and has since become one of the brand’s bestsellers. This is one of the few, perhaps the only, top selling Cartier wristwatch that is a modern design, rather than a classic design from decades ago like the Santos, Tank et al.

 

This year sees the launch of the first small complication in the Ballon Bleu range. It’s a chronograph with a modular movement. Inside the 8000 MC automatic movement made by JLC exclusively for Cartier topped with an in-house chronograph plate. The asymmetrical layout of the dial – two counters only with date at 9 o’clock – matches the Ballon Bleu case design, it is classical but quirky. This will be available in the three colours of gold, on either strap or bracelet.

 


 


Ballon Bleu chronograph rose gold 

 


 


Yellow gold 

 


 


White gold 

 

Next is the Santos 100 in an amorphous diamond-like carbon (ADLC) treated case. This is a very unusual step for Cartier, both in terms of materials and design; I cannot recall any other Cartier watch with a treated case. While it is striking and fills a gap in Cartier’s product line, there are many other Cartier watches I would buy before this one.

 


 


Santos 100 XL chronograph in titanium and ADLC  

 

According to Cartier, the unique property of ADLC which makes it superior to all other coating methods is the thickness of the coating, which means it will not reveal a contrasting colour of the substrate if scratched (of course if a gouge is deep enough the substrate will be shown). In addition, the treatment is fingerprint-resistant so touching the case won’t leave a fingerprint. Cartier says this specific treatment process is used in military equipment and that it has exclusive rights to use this treatment for watches.

 


 


Santos 100 XL chronograph in rose gold and ADLC

 

Three models are available, the Santos 100 XL Chronograph, Santos 100 XL and Santos 100. Both XL versions are 38 mm in diameter, while the smaller one is 32 mm.

 


 


Rose gold case with ADLC bezel and pushers;

for some inexplicable reason I forgot to remove the plastic from this, apologies.

 

It is available in three combinations: ADLC with titanium bezel and pushers, ADLC with rose gold bezel and pushers, and rose gold case with ADLC bezel and pushers.

 


Santos 100 Automatic with glossy ADLC case 

 


 

Two more versions of the Santos Triple 100 were unveiled this year. The first has black, silver or skeleton dial, in essence it’s a Santos 100 Skeleton with a louvered dial.

 


 


 


 

The second, set with diamonds, features an engraved eagle on one dial, black and white diamonds on another and plain white on the last face.

 


 


 


 


 

The le Cirque Animalier de Cartier collection, which in previous years were dedicated to Asia hence featured the panda, elephant or tiger, now features animals native to North America. Thus the animals depicted are the bald eagle, alligator (not a crocodile) and a raccoon (I think). All three are quartz. The alligator and white tiger are graceful yet whimsical watches; I don’t like the colours of the Bald Eagle. Limited edition of 50 pieces of each.

 


 


 


 


 

Now we get to Cartier Haute Horlogerie; this collection is not part of the CPCP, it is just Cartier. As I mentioned earlier, the CPCP will eventually be discontinued, though many CPCP models will carry on without the “Paris” label on the dial, just like the men’s Bagnoire above.

 

One interesting aspect of the high horology collection is its pricing. For example, the Americaine tourbillion retails for approximately USD85,000 and the Central Chronograph is about USD36,000 (these are approximations converted from the Singapore retail price). Those are very fair prices given the level of finish and the complication, not to mention the brand.

 

First we the Santos 100 Skeleton, unusually cased in 950 palladium. Measuring 46.5 x 54.9 mm, the Santos 100 Skeleton contains an in-house 9611 MC movement. This calibre was developed by Carole Forestier and her team at La Chaux-de-Fonds and not by Roger Dubuis, in fact Ms Forestier mentioned that the development of the calibre began several years before RD was acquired by Cartier in 2008.

 


 


 


 


 


 

 


 

The baseplate of the movement forms the Roman numerals of the dial. I like the movement very much but the watch is too large. I mentioned to Ms Forestier that the movement is small for such a large watch, she was not pleased and replied that the movement is actually large, the twin barrels take up most of the space at the top while the keyless works occupy most of the area on the right.

 


 


 

 

Next is a trio of tourbillions, all using the same 9452 MC movement based on the RD flying tourbillion calibre. The movements are made by Cartier inside Roger Dubuis' manufacture in Geneva and feature the Geneva Seal. Cartier has improved the construction of the movement, most notably in terms of reliability of timekeeping over several years.

 


 


 

 

 


 


Ballon Bleu tourbillon 

 


Cal. 9452 MC flying tourbillon movement 

 

Last year saw the launch of the Ballon Bleu tourbillion, 2009 sees the addition of the Tank Americaine and Santos 100 tourbillon. The Ballon Bleu is 46 mm wide, the Tank Americaine is 35.8 x 52 mm and the Santos is 46.5 x 54.9 mm. Each is available in white or pink gold. Even though these are very small movements in very large cases, the proportions of the dials look right because they are designed such that the tourbillion looks fairly close to the edge of the dial.

 


 


 


Santos 100 Tourbillon

I especially like the Tank Americaine, it is quintessential Cartier in style and looks great on the wrist. Even though it is a large it remains elegant.

 


 


 


 


 


Tank Americaine Tourbillon

 

Another new model is the Rotonde de Cartier monopusher chronograph with tourbillion which contains a Renaud et Papi movement. It is a handsome watch but too large, leaving the chronograph counters and tourbillion bridge clustered in the middle of the dial resulting in an uncomfortably cross-eyed look. This is a limited edition of 50 pieces in platinum.

 


 


 


 


 


 


Cal. 9431 MC from Renaud et Papi 

 

Next is the Rotonde de Cartier Central Chronograph. It features an entirely new in-house movement, designed by Carole Forestier, Cartier’s head watchmaker, in which the minute and hour counters are co-axial in the centre of the dial. The central counters are held above the dial by a sapphire ring.

 


 


 


 


 


 


 

The movement is a column wheel controlled calibre with vertical clutch and its diameter is 42 mm and it is available in white or pink gold.

 


Cal. 9907 MC in-house central chronograph  

 

You’ll notice that these new high horology watches have similar design elements, multi-layered dials in grey guilloche and silver. This look was created by Carole Forestier along with Cartier’s design team and will be the new aesthetic for most of the top-end Cartier technical watches.

 


 

 

We conclude with a piece unique Rotonde de Cartier 10-days tourbillion made by Renaud et Papi. A similar watch was launched last year with movement bridges in Pieterite, this year’s version has bridges in sapphire or brushed steel Roman numerals. The case is 50 mm in platinum and the watch was sold by the time of the fair, though it was available for viewing.

 


 


 


 


 


 

Cartier executives stated explicitly the brand is serious about high horology and is investing the necessary resources. One of the long term goals is for the brand to be vertically integrated, primarily at its La Chaux-de-Fonds facility. Given Cartier’s size, I have no doubt that it will happen.

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My comprehensive SIHH and Geneva 2009 report

 
 By: SJX : January 31st, 2009-20:10
SIHH and Geneva 2009 By Su JiaXian © January 2009 Here is my comprehensive report on the watches presented at SIHH and Geneva two weeks ago. A couple of things to note. This is a long report, comprising 656 photos and 13,121 words, but it is divided into ...  

*** A. Lange & Söhne

 
 By: SJX : January 31st, 2009-20:20
Each year Lange typically debuts one new complication, plus as assorted number of existing models with new dials or cases. This year continued that tradition but Lange did it better than before. 1815 in platinum - 500 pieces limited edition Two new moveme...  

I believe it has a flat hairspring

 
 By: SJX : February 1st, 2009-22:56
only the Lange complications have overcoils, but I will double check with Lange. - SJX

Some info on the new balance from Lange

 
 By: SJX : February 2nd, 2009-02:36
The new balance in the L051.1 of the new 1815 has 4 long screws for regulation of the balance, while the other screws in the balance are used to poise it. It uses a flat hairspring. - SJX

Cool, thanks! (nt)

 
 By: ei8htohms : February 2nd, 2009-02:47
nt

Thank you so very much...................

 
 By: Topcat30093 : February 2nd, 2009-19:22

No Overcoil ?

 
 By: NJ : February 22nd, 2009-14:01

Clarification about the stops seconds on the RL PLM

 
 By: BluNotte : February 2nd, 2009-01:50
Hello SJX, Thanks for the great photo reports for the brands, much appreciated ! I have a question though about the stop seconds function on the RL PLM. I have read and heard from various sources different opinions, and i'd thought maybe you could help me... 

Hack seconds only, no zero reset

 
 By: SJX : February 2nd, 2009-02:26
My mistake. Apologies! - SJX

SJX, what do you mean?

 
 By: Mech : February 2nd, 2009-02:19
when you said "....no cut-off Roman numerals..."?

That was in reference to...

 
 By: SJX : February 2nd, 2009-02:25
the Cabaret tourbillon which has Roman numerals that are cut off by the subdials. - SJX

not PLM?

 
 By: Mech : February 2nd, 2009-02:32
The roman 6 is cut off in PLM or am I mistaken?

But PLM has printed numerals

 
 By: SJX : February 2nd, 2009-02:35
which do not disturb me as much as cut-off applied numerals. - SJX

I see

 
 By: Mech : February 2nd, 2009-02:50
where you're coming from, but the sub dial truncating at 6 still is a 'flaw' to me. It's disappointing given such a beautiful movement introduced.

The new 1815 is beautiful !

 
 By: Kong : February 7th, 2009-03:12

*** Audemars Piguet

 
 By: SJX : January 31st, 2009-21:05
Each year the new products from AP can be neatly split into two groups – Royal Oaks and Others. Fortunately, this year Others are numerous and impressive. But let’s get the difficult part out of the way and first run through the new Royal Oaks. The grand ...  

Thanks for the good coverage and...

 
 By: nasty204 : February 4th, 2009-05:40

Brilliant stuff!

 
 By: Davo : February 25th, 2009-01:02

*** Cartier

 
 By: SJX : January 31st, 2009-21:48
Cartier’s collection this year is typical in the fact that its entry- and mid-level stuff will likely be commercial hits. But it is atypical because its haute horlogerie watches are numerous and are a declaration of Cartier’s goals to push itself upmarket...  

*** Cvstos

 
 By: SJX : January 31st, 2009-22:19
...  

*** De Bethune

 
 By: SJX : January 31st, 2009-22:33
I am undecided about what I like best of the new De Bethune products. The Dream Watches One and Two were unveiled, but so was the De Bethune roadster. While other companies are making watches with car keys, De Bethune has built its own car. The car was pa...  

Thank you SJX

 
 By: moc : February 1st, 2009-10:27

*** Franck Muller

 
 By: SJX : January 31st, 2009-22:40
...  

*** Girard-Perrregaux

 
 By: SJX : January 31st, 2009-22:50
...  

*** IWC

 
 By: SJX : January 31st, 2009-22:55
True to form, IWC showcased a big collection with strong mass market appeal. Two traits that have made IWC what it is – an accessible price point combined with high quality cases and bracelets – are evident in the flagship collection for 2009, the revampe...  

*** Jaeger-LeCoultre

 
 By: SJX : February 1st, 2009-00:03
Jaeger-LeCoultre presented numerous new products in many directions, which it always does. The number of models and lines verge on being confusing, but some of the new products are worthy of note. There was also a rumour of a ultra-grande complication, on...  

The integrated straps

 
 By: Dje : February 2nd, 2009-01:37
Hi JiaXian, Thank you for your report and superb pics (much better than mine). AFAIK the integrated straps on the Grande Reverso models are Squadra straps used for the show but they are not supposed to be used for production watches. That's what i've unde... 

I was given to understand they will be delivered with integrated straps...

 
 By: SJX : February 2nd, 2009-02:28
Not specifically the straps shown at SIHH, but integrated straps of some sort. - SJX

So let's wait! nt

 
 By: Dje : February 2nd, 2009-03:58

*** Maximilian Büsser & Friends

 
 By: SJX : February 1st, 2009-00:32
Only one model was officially launched by MB&F during the SIHH period, the HM2 in ceramic. In a couple of months, a variant of the HM1 using the last handful of HM1 movements will be unveiled, followed by the HM4 later in the year. From now on, Max will u...  

Thanks a lot for these brilliant pics of the HM2.

 
 By: foversta : February 1st, 2009-05:29
But are you sure that the HM4 will be released this year ? Because I'm not. I think we will have to expect it till 2010. Fr.Xavier

The Titanium HM2 is beautiful!!

 
 By: Z3 : February 1st, 2009-06:09

*** Montblanc

 
 By: SJX : February 1st, 2009-00:41
When Montblanc first launched its watch collection several years ago, I visited one of the few Montblanc boutiques (there were much less pervasive then) to check out the range. Only a handful of watches were available, all contained ETA movements and poss...  

Most impressive! [nt]

 
 By: Davo : February 25th, 2009-01:05

*** Panerai

 
 By: SJX : February 1st, 2009-01:27
I will begin with the comical Egiziano before discussing the proper watches unveiled at SIHH. It is a limited edition of only 300 pieces (whew) and is 60 mm in diameter like the original, but it is cased in titanium whereas the original was steel. And the...  

SJX , your Egiziano shots are perfect!

 
 By: BluNotte : February 2nd, 2009-03:16

Fantastico! [nt]

 
 By: Davo : February 25th, 2009-01:03

*** Piaget

 
 By: SJX : February 1st, 2009-01:33
...  

*** Urwerk

 
 By: SJX : February 1st, 2009-01:34
The new product launched by Urwerk was the 103T, or ‘Tarantula’. While it is different from the existing 103 with regards to construction and motion of the satellite arms, it is not that different. The 103 is getting long in tooth and the derivatives of t...  

Outstanding! [nt]

 
 By: Davo : February 25th, 2009-01:03

*** Vacheron Constantin

 
 By: SJX : February 1st, 2009-01:34
Vacheron Constantin’s collection this year, whilst small, is probably the best in a long time. No exotic complications unveiled at SIHH; instead VC presented a series of classical watches that are uniformly fine-looking (save for the Overseas which I neve...  

Architecturally relevant

 
 By: Wees : February 7th, 2009-05:20

*** Van Cleef & Arpels

 
 By: SJX : February 1st, 2009-01:34
I only really took notice of Van Cleef et Arpels when they launched the Midnight in Paris astronomical watch a year or two back. Prior to that VC&A had some fairly interesting small complications like alarm watches and chronographs, as well as a unique la...  

Great stuff Jiaxian.

 
 By: tony p : February 1st, 2009-09:48

Fantastic!!

 
 By: jjm788 : February 1st, 2009-16:19

S J X You did an amazing job

 
 By: Geo : February 2nd, 2009-01:00

OMG, this is one serious report.

 
 By: JPSF : February 2nd, 2009-01:03

Thanks a lot Jiaxian!

 
 By: Wooster : February 2nd, 2009-03:06

Comprehensive indeed. A...

 
 By: Rob : February 1st, 2009-04:06

Thanks for the incredible post

 
 By: akashjain_del : February 1st, 2009-05:22

Thanks a lot SJX !

 
 By: foversta : February 1st, 2009-05:22

TOP TOP TOP post

 
 By: kkhazen : February 1st, 2009-06:23
thank you SJX for this amazing post and all the time u've put to prepare it. Really amazing. I liked ur critics also. The SIHH should award u a VIP pass for next year salon K.

BRAVO!

 
 By: lien : February 1st, 2009-07:18

Fantastic coverage, Jsx.

 
 By: jimsbk : February 1st, 2009-06:48
Thanks for sharing a very comprehensive pictorial eports and candid remarks of the 2009 SIHH/Geneva novelties. Great stuff indeed. Cheers, Jim

This is a VERY impressive report

 
 By: SteveH : February 1st, 2009-10:27

Impressive Work, SJX

 
 By: amanico : February 1st, 2009-11:55

WOW SJX, Fantastic report! [nt]

 
 By: DRMW : February 1st, 2009-12:51

This is not a Post, it's an ENTIRE WEBSITE

 
 By: numerobis : February 1st, 2009-13:15
Great Job, thanks a lot !

It's like a mini SIHH :)

 
 By: Mech : February 1st, 2009-15:44

Serious reporting!

 
 By: nacelle : February 1st, 2009-14:18
A very thorough presentation full of beautiful pictures and insights!

Super stuff and simply outstanding!

 
 By: decksurgeon : February 1st, 2009-17:08

SIHH 2009

 
 By: VPREGULATOR : February 1st, 2009-17:30

Thanks for taking us through the journey in an awesome way!

 
 By: matrix : February 1st, 2009-20:05
I would have to say JLC and Panerai were my favs. Be healthy, Matrix.

Thx for sharing with us.

 
 By: ALEPOS : February 1st, 2009-21:36

Very well written

 
 By: wil_moresby : February 1st, 2009-20:40

KUDOS!!!

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : February 2nd, 2009-01:18

Amazing report SJX!

 
 By: iFunky : February 2nd, 2009-01:42

Pateks?

 
 By: VPREGULATOR : February 2nd, 2009-03:39
Jia Xian Anything on Pateks?

Brilliant, brilliant report - sumptuous photos and great reporting. Worthy of a

 
 By: 219 : February 2nd, 2009-03:58
publication and lecture tour in its own right. Greatly enjoyed reading and viewing. I hate to think of the accumulated time that has been spent on this. Many thanks for all your endeavours. Andrew H

Lecture tour

 
 By: SJX : February 2nd, 2009-04:27
Someone else is already doing it, and he does a better job than me, his includes video. - SJX

Video? Of what?

 
 By: tony p : February 2nd, 2009-06:48
Watch hands going around dials, perhaps. Or CEOs getting drunk and sleazing onto models at after-fair parties. Where can I get tickets? Cheers Tony P

Oh. OK. Anyway, I know who you're talking about

 
 By: tony p : February 2nd, 2009-07:20
and, accomplished though he is, I doubt he could do a better job with video than you just did with words and pictures. Cheers Tony P

(AA) Absolutely Amazing

 
 By: CK68 : February 2nd, 2009-05:45

Outstanding report. Thanks so much! nt

 
 By: J_Warden : February 2nd, 2009-07:43

Thanks for that extensive set of reprots. (nt)

 
 By: Ronald Held : February 2nd, 2009-10:55

Very impressive report SJX...

 
 By: SLPW : February 2nd, 2009-11:46
a very nice read with excellent pictures and It was a pleasure meeting you on the Tuesday @ Lange ! Best regards, Stefan

Great to meet you too SLPW

 
 By: SJX : February 2nd, 2009-18:18

Fantastic report [nt]

 
 By: Massi : February 2nd, 2009-16:47

Best report I've read for a long time...

 
 By: yw wong : February 4th, 2009-02:14