Last of the Mohicans ... as ‘they’ say.

May 23, 2020,13:08 PM
 

10 years ago i went to the Renault dealership for the first time. I have been a fan of the small Clio Sport ever since the Mk2 came out around 2001-2002.

Later on a couple of my friends bought the Mk3 phase 1 RS with 197 hp, in 2009 the phase 2 came out with 201 hp.

In may 2010 i decided to place an order for the latter. This was and still is in my opinion one of the great driving cars. How can this be possible you say ? Back in those days most of the British car magazines like TOPGEAR and EVO did multitests with the best driver cars .... Lambo, Ferrari, AMG, BMW M and the likes .... AND from time to time ... a RENAULTSPORT .... .
There was a certain year the Clio almost made it EVO car of the year, unfortunately one or other Ferrari was soo good so the Clio came second.

So even after ten years and 145.000 km of ownership i still enjoy this car like no other ( unless somebody gives me a 430 Scud or a 458 Speciale ).

Why would this be the last of the Mohicans ? I believe this was actually the very last naturally aspirated FWD hot hatch that came on the market.
A 2 litre four cilinder which is actually a race engine (Clio cup / Formula Renault 2000 / R3 Rallye) , no turbo or any other forced induction and 201 hp output. Yes, 100 hp per litre which was pretty amazing for a road car at the time.
Off course there were already cars with that kind of power from a 2 litre and even more but most of them we equipped with a turbo. The older Honda S2000 even managed 240 hp although most tests on a rolling road showed less than 230 hp .... nonetheless a great achievement by Honda ( although below 6000 rpm that engine was pretty slow ).

So last year i decided to give my little Clio some more spice and i took it to a local tuner. Since i bought this car new and had always been very careful 🥶 with it ( at least when the engine was still cold) i felt the car was still performing like new.
First run on the rolling road with standard mapping (but different air intake) showed 207 hp and 221 Nm ... so still above the official specs of 201 hp and 215 Nm.
After one and a half hour of testing and mapping the ECU everybody was amazed by the result that showed, even i couldn’t believe it was possible to gain this much power with a ‘simple’ mapping ... 222 hp and 249 Nm. That is a gain of 15 hp (7%) ... okay a turbo car can easily be tuned with an extra 70% .... and actually 20 hp gain from 4000 to 6500 rpm.
Furthermore the rev limiter was raised from 7500 to 7800 rpm and even then it is/was still pulling very strong jumping of the limiter from time to time 😁.
On the road and in real life the car feels a tiny bit stronger than before, when you really start to drive fast and hit the throttle 100% from 3500-4000 rpm the powerhike becomes noticeable, especially above 6500 to almost 8000 you realize i made a good investment 😄.

The addition of a mechanical limited slip differential in the gearbox is another great feature. This gives the car like 50% more grip in tight corners and some kind of stability in the faster ones ( i think ). Compared to a standard differential this new one divides forces to the wheels that need more or less grip ...
For a front wheel drive like my Clio it is very handy for better traction out of the corners , for a rear wheel drive car it is very handy for .... traction as well ... but makes it a lot easier to drift the car 😁😁😁.






I hope the other Clio drivers on the forum 😂 will take my advice and go for a remap on their Renaultsport ;-)

Cheers,
Filip


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Cool! 👍🏻🤭🍀☀️

 
 By: MCG (Markus) : May 23rd, 2020-14:07
Maybe I should do that for my Megan RS F1 R26 as well... ...  

Fabulous car as well !

 
 By: bimbeano : May 23rd, 2020-15:26
Back in 2010 i tried the Megane RS 250 as well but opted for the Clio since at the time i didn’t like the character of the turbo engine. Your R26 really looks the business , white color, the discrete decalls and the dark wheels. Two years ago i addedthe n...  

My car is also the last of the Mohicans

 
 By: Weems@8 : May 23rd, 2020-14:35
And i wil tell why. I drive a Honda Civic Diesel. A story. But when i resume my story, i like your Renault Clio Sport story. Great sporty bomb. Why my car is also the last real great Diesel in it’s segment. It is a reliable car of Japanese make. Toyota an...  

I owned and still own a few dieselcars.

 
 By: bimbeano : May 23rd, 2020-15:38
I still have my 2007 Audi A4 2.0 diesel with 136 hp and 320 Nm as well as a 2018. Renault Trafic Van 1.6 diesel with 125 hp and 320 Nm like the Audi but pushed out of a 1600 cc. Amazingly this tiny engine pushes that van like it’s peanuts 😀. Yup diesel en... 

Agree

 
 By: Weems@8 : May 23rd, 2020-16:07
Yes Filip, i agree 100% politicians are killing all what is good. They ban cigarettes, so what is next? Beer free restaurants, and closing friet kottes because people can eat to much friet and that is bad for them? Where is freedom? Are we going to be lik... 

My dinosaur

 
 By: cazalea : May 23rd, 2020-15:22
A gas-electric hybrid. No plug-in. No automatic or CVT, just an honest 5-spd with electric boost when you need it. 995cc 3-cylinder with forged pistons (slightly oval), two rings, cracked rod caps vs cut, so they fit perfectly when bolted on, indexed spar...  

Mini third gen Prelude

 
 By: Weems@8 : May 23rd, 2020-15:40
Nice car you have there Cazalea. For many years i wanted that Insight, because of the futuristic approach. I could not buy that great Insight, because Honda do not export the car to Europe. We’ve got the CR-Z here, but i made other choices. I always dream...  

NSX and S2000 both aluminum structures and from the same factory as the Insight

 
 By: cazalea : May 23rd, 2020-15:48
Building those expensive cars enabled Honda to sneak in the Insight and build it cost-effectively between the "big $$ guys". When they went out of production at Honda's Takanezawa plant, so did the Insight.

I’ve always found this to be an odd car ...

 
 By: bimbeano : May 23rd, 2020-15:46
... but for some mysterious reason i am pretty sure that i would really like the driving experience. I bet you i can do better than that 61 US mpg with your car 😜. Offcourse that’s a number one can reach with any dieselcar but try that with a petrol car. ... 

This Honda was pure genius...

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : May 23rd, 2020-15:54
Do you still have it ?

I did 5 minutes ago when I took that picture

 
 By: cazalea : May 23rd, 2020-15:59
Yes. From Feb 10 2007 to today, about 108,000 miles. First day photo: Aero shape 100,000 mile photo average 53.5 mpg lifetime ...  

It’s a great car Mike ...

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : May 23rd, 2020-16:01
A true modern classic. Yours is a great colour. Difficult to find a good one these days.

Actually it's very difficult even to find parts for it

 
 By: cazalea : May 23rd, 2020-16:16
The Honda dealers "don't want to know" it's a Honda when you come in -- there were so few sold and such different mechanical components (and body panels). It took almost a year of hunting to get a new A pillar skin because they all fly off after windscree...  

Thanks, that was fascinating...

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : May 23rd, 2020-16:29
I almost got one.

Yes, that was a good one, wasn't it?

 
 By: cazalea : May 23rd, 2020-16:19
I had the first element in San Diego, bought it the day they went on sale. And ordered that plate the same day at the DMV. I sold the Element for a low price a few years later, to a friend who had fallen on hard times, and he still has it today. I've trie...  

Beautiful Element

 
 By: Weems@8 : May 23rd, 2020-16:20
Is it your car park? It could be mine also. All great cars. For you some Citroën fun. > ...  

Thanks, and yes it is my driveway and it's always full of craziness

 
 By: cazalea : May 23rd, 2020-16:53
I like to drive my neighbors crazy, actually ...  

very cool , actually i looking for a similar car

 
 By: Passionata_george : May 23rd, 2020-15:57
for track days . Pls tell me the LSD standard or have you got equipped?

For track days it is the ideal car.

 
 By: bimbeano : May 23rd, 2020-16:04
Relatively cheap ... but very cheap compared to any other car that maybe gives you the same fun. LSD is not standard but if you buy one of these Clio’s secondhand chances are big you want to overhaul the gearbox. Any good car mechanic can take out the gea... 

Megane RS

 
 By: Weems@8 : May 23rd, 2020-16:28
I like the Megane RS. The old one.

Haha no problem ....

 
 By: bimbeano : May 24th, 2020-06:12
... the more variety the better !

Yes and next time ...

 
 By: bimbeano : May 24th, 2020-06:13
.... you will realise the difference is big, especially the sound 😃

Can’t wait ! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : May 24th, 2020-06:31

Nice!!

 
 By: pejp : May 26th, 2020-21:09
My first car was a 1.4 Renault Clio RT 1995 model! I was 17, so 20 years ago now. Obviously not cool or sporty, but I loved it!

Actually i think ...

 
 By: bimbeano : May 27th, 2020-15:30
that would have been a lot of fun to drive.