Funny the cars we are talking about in the same thread as GT86.....

2-10x the price and 1.5 - 3.5x the power.....
Patrick, I guess it all depends on what you're looking for. You're lucky to have the problem. At these levels I think it is hairsplitting differences as to whatever floats your boat. I am very driven by the driving aesthetics not metrics, so I will have to give the McL a low score for its ongoing lacklustre exhaust note - I could not live with it - we all hated it when working on 12C and a better sounding exhaust was not chosen at sign off; though it has improved. It's such a fundamental part of the experience when driving. For example why I have Zx1000R (screaming raspy hair tingling sound) not a Fireblade (vaccum cleaner).
Life is too short to compromise, and I'm biased towards the lovely people holding the torch at Sant'Agata, who I dearly miss, (blub blub) so LP580-2 all the way for Velociphile, not that I could afford to squeeze that in the garage past MrsV.
but we'd probably all be better off in a NSX.... hehehe

Unsung Genius - Tada-san's funbox last laugh

By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : September 6th, 2017-10:22

Yes it’s childish. I guess some of us never grow up. Constantly looking for every opportunity to have her sideways. T o tease out her tail and keep her balanced there on the cliff edge of orgasm. Or tweak her helm to step out learily and catch like nervou...

Yet to spend some serious time with this one :)

By: KMII : September 6th, 2017-11:40

But your ode to it is quite promising!

ahh the hachi-roku....I was toying with the idea of getting this car (used) or the new rolex day date.

By: kesharoo : September 6th, 2017-20:41

whichever it is, the car will be a manual one of course. Lets see....Have to test drive them and decide between the 86 or the BRZ.

'86 all the way. :-) [nt]

By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : September 7th, 2017-00:35

A perfect concept, but with a few flaws...

By: patrick_y : September 7th, 2017-14:49

When the Toyota 86 debuted, I applauded Toyota for bringing this to market. This is exactly what the industry needed. Then I drove one, a stock one, for nearly 1000 miles, 1500 kilometers, and I couldn't sing its praises anymore. Drove it in heavy Los Ang...

Interesting insight

By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : September 8th, 2017-05:16

Not sure what bias ratio was chosen but this torsen is 'tight' in full lock turns. Also the rear brakes activate to control the 'slipping' wheel if needed when this happens on looser surfaces. This can feel clunky but is normal. Not sure what tyres you ha...

I definitely had one with the bad tires...

By: patrick_y : September 8th, 2017-16:35

I had one with touring tires, Michelins if I recall correctly. I was rather surprised that the tires had such limited grip. My normal car has Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires; so that's my baseline. But the Toyota 86 is definitely a great concept and we n...

"limited grip"

By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : September 9th, 2017-01:32

Hi Patrick, If your baseline is Mich Pilot SS then I understand. 8-) That is a whopping amount of stick. I'm less fussed about that, the thing I am always looking for is progression. The Primacys just don't seem to have that in the damp and cold UK especi...

E39 BMW?

By: patrick_y : September 11th, 2017-12:25

540 V8 BMW? I personally really enjoyed the way the E39 generation of BMW 5er vehicles drove. They were a great balance of comfort and sportiness, and a bit more on the sporty side. I had an E60 BMW 545i, a vehicle that was another good balance of comfort...

Funny the cars we are talking about in the same thread as GT86.....

By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : September 13th, 2017-11:01

Good to know about the McLaren...

By: patrick_y : September 14th, 2017-11:58

I'll have to pay attention to that. It's a flat crank V8 built by Ricardo, it shouldn't sound too bad. There's also a Sport Exhaust optional extra. I recall the Aston Martin V12 Vantage S, it had an amazing sound and amazing looks. Unfortunately not much ...

"Flat crank V8....." "...shouldn't sound bad"

By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : September 19th, 2017-12:02

Well it may have been designed, engineered and developed by the unsung Ricardo, but the customer, MCL, still chose the sound. Don't let the Huracan's so called blindspot put you off. Spread the mirrors wider than usual.